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[-] Beaver@lemmy.ca 111 points 3 months ago

The ultra rich are the problem.

[-] snooggums@midwest.social 33 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Conservatives are the problem, the ultra rich conservstives exacerbate the problem.

Note that the opposite of ultra rich conservatives is Jimmy Carter who still built wealth but didn't go for ultra wealth because he actually cares about people. The ultra wealthy are a symptom.

[-] TimLovesTech@badatbeing.social 14 points 3 months ago

I wouldn't put these 2 in the conservative category, they are fascist groupies. They were both born into wealth, and then did everything possible to constantly grow their wealth while exploiting labor and everyone around them. They both have a real disdain for rules/laws for them, but love to try and use the legal system against those they see as an enemy.

[-] snooggums@midwest.social 9 points 3 months ago

They both have a real disdain for rules/laws for them, but love to try and use the legal system against those they see as an enemy.

So, conservatives. Modern conservatives are fascists, it is the same thing.

[-] Zombiepirate@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Conservatism is the theoretical voice of this animus against the agency of the subordinate classes. It provides the most consistent and profound argument as to why the lower orders should not be allowed to exercise their independent will, why they should not be allowed to govern themselves or the polity. Submission is their first duty, and agency the prerogative of the elite.

The Reactionary Mind: Conservatism from Edmund Burke to Donald Trump

Even if they weren't straight-up fascist in the past (highly debatable), conservatism is a blight on liberty. The only potential difference is degree, not kind.

[-] Soup@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

If you wanted to separate it out then fascists are those with power and “conservativism” is the ideology they peddle to the working class to make what they’re doing seem ok.

They’re the same thing, really.

[-] mojo_raisin@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

Conservatives are simply fascists with masks on.

[-] aesthelete@lemmy.world 15 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Totally agree. I'm starting to think that taxing the rich is one of the government's most important functions.

I think it might be worth it for them to do so even if they set the collected money on fire afterwards.

Otherwise your politics become this: billionaires "interviewing" billionaires.

[-] fossilesque@mander.xyz 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

It's literally regulation and that can be a good tool. It's what a government should ideally do. It can be weaponised of course, in both directions, like we are experiencing now.

[-] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 45 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Trump is actually second-gen on his mother's side and third-gen on his father's side. Not that it really changes the message, but there's no reason to get the facts wrong in this.

[-] snooggums@midwest.social 55 points 3 months ago

Two of Trumps wives are immigrants and his kids are anchor babies.

[-] PriorityMotif@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

Trump was adopted from Russia.

[-] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 23 points 3 months ago

I'd be all for the Harris administration labeling Elmo a threat to our democracy, have all of his assets seized, and deported.

That would really give his persecution complex a reason to exist.

[-] perviouslyiner@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

Something similar was discussed recently.

[-] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 21 points 3 months ago

Some immigration. You know what kind.

[-] expatriado@lemmy.world 17 points 3 months ago

to be fair, im all for deporting african immigrants worth more then 100 billion $

[-] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 months ago

Let's drop the zeros and call it a law.

[-] Persen@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

They will return with bribery, something most people can't do.

[-] Thorry84@feddit.nl 16 points 3 months ago

Rules for thee, not for me

[-] grue@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago

Well when you put it like that -- that immigrants are like Musk and Trump's family -- they're not wrong!

[-] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 3 months ago

Potato-face.

this post was submitted on 13 Aug 2024
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