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Everyone seems to, except major phone manufacturers. 😡
Maybe someone could make a kickstarter
There have been plenty, some that have come to fruition. The first and only thing I have ever back was the planet computers "Astro Slide", I will never participate in crowd funding again after that fucking shit show.
At the end of the day though they don't usually attract enough backers to really make a decent product out if it, which is a shame.
Unihertz makes a couple of modern keyboard phones but none of them are sliders.
Yeh,i had the titan for around a year and a half. It was a decent piece of hardware with a keyboard that was fairly decent (not as good as blackberry still).
The problem with them is the software and support. The keyboards just about work but aren't integrated into the whole experience like you got with a blackberry. It always felt a bit awkward and some choices were just weird, as if the programmers never tried actually using what they programmed.
I tried to put a custom ROM on mine but could never get the boot loader to unlock as it should have so ultimately I gave up as the positives for me of having a keyboard were being outweighed by the jank
I also think it's really hard to engineer a good slide phone. Modern smartphones are already really compact. So you either (1) make an affordable slide phone with terrible specs and ok engineering or (2) make a slide phone with excellent specs and engineering but costs a huge amount of money. And I am going to guess most small companies cannot engineer anything like (2) so you just end up with slide phones with bad specs and it's only selling point is that it has a sliding keyboard. This phone will not sell well.
I don't even want the slide mechanism, just the keyboard. Blackberry keytwo is the greatest phone / form factor of recent years imo
I believe there is a a keyboard case called Clicks however it appears to only be aimed at iPhones. If it's a huge deal to you this is one possible solution.
There is a project that repurposes a blackberry keyboard to make a detachable android keyboard that I have saved somewhere. Phones are too big as it is however and adding that on, plus the cost being about 50% again over what I spent on the actual phone I'm not super keen on that.
I just want a blackberry key three xD
idk I'd be perfectly fine with having a bulkier phone in exchange for a keyboard.
~~https://www.fxtec.com/smartphones/pro1x~~
Nonono. To hell with that phone and that company. i bought one and it just now got delivered, three years later.
It's underpowered and a broken mess. And the keyboard isn't the best, which is insane for a phone whose whole selling point is the keyboard. I was expecting it to be on par with my old Sidekick phones. Nope. So disappointing.
Sorry to hear that, I almost bought one but couldn't justify the flagship price... Glad I didn't :/
Too bad it is out of stock.
I mean it sounds good on paper but who's going to want to buy a phone that's 2x thicker because it has a sliding keyboard? No doubt it'll be really expensive to make too.
I don't understand the obsession with thinness. My phone has a case on it and already is like 2x as thick as a current phone and it's fine. If anything it makes it easier to hold on to and type on. While I don't care about having a physical keyboard, there's a lot of other stuff they could do if they didn't care so much about making it as thin as possible.
I like how phones become so thin then need to jut out to make room for the cameras so they cant even lie flat anymore.... so dumb
People who want a keyboard, that's who.
I don't get why people go around acting like these phones did not physically exist in the past in significant numbers, and both the "expense" and thickness problems were not, in fact, problems.
My old Galaxy S Relay 4G was not appreciably any thicker than my current phone is with its case on it. And the Blackberry Priv I had after that was still exactly as thin as current modern phones.
I stopped buying keyboard phones when the manufacturers stopped selling them to me. They don't actually care what the market demands, they care about what the market will accept with the highest profit margins. A mid-spec phone with a keyboard coming in under the price of a flagship should actually be a feasible product, but by creating that product, you're reducing your profit/unit just that little bit...
You're comparing the market 10+ years ago to the market now... Your old phone was tiny compared to modern phones, which is a market that barely exists anymore because people prefer larger screens. It's one thing for a smaller phone to have a sliding keyboard, but slapping one on an already big phone would make it heavier and clunkier to use. The fact that touch screens are way bigger means that using a touch screen keyboard is much easier than it used to be, making slide out keyboards unnecessary.
I don't understand why every tech community acts like their niche opinions apply to the whole market. "Everyone wants small phones, we all want sliding keyboards, remember when operating systems were simple?" etc etc. I guarantee you if someone ACTUALLY made the type of phone you want it would barely sell and be seen as a gimmick.
This seems to invalidate your statement about thickness being important, and total volume is about the same.
How? His phone was still thicker than phones now and that doesn't have a cover.
The Priv wasn't. Read the entire post. The Priv from Blackberry/TCL had a slider keyboard and altogether was 9.5mm thick. My current Moto G Power 5G is 8.5. An iPhone 16 is 8.25. This is not an appreciable difference.
Obviously there's not any technical reason anyone couldn't make a modern slider as thin as current slates, it's just that with the discontinuation of the Priv nobody does. And that's not even getting into fixed keyboard designs.
And imagine how much they sacrificed to make it 9.5mm. Not to mention that phone is an outlier (and the iphone 16 is actually 7.8mm). Priorities changed, phones now need more space for things like a bigger battery, better cameras, bigger heatsinks for faster performance and less throttling.
There are technical reasons. You can't just put in a sliding keyboard on a modern phone and expect it to work the same. They'll have to cut on so much to fit that without being too thick, and in the end you'll end up with a phone that's worse in every way and probably more expensive, for a feature so little people want.
What? I don't have to "imagine" anything. I literally owned one, for two years. Nothing was "sacrificed" on the Priv. It was in all aspects a completely modern phone, even managing to include a headphone jack and memory card slot, a curved edge display, wireless charging, and a 3400 mAh battery. And don't try to come at me about battery capacity, either. Just to name an example, its contemporary in the Galaxy S7 had a 3000 mAh battery, was the flagship phone of its time, and sold bucketloads of units.
Your argument is bullshit. Slider phones aren't made because manufacturers don't want to make them -- be that for low projected sales reasons or whatever else -- not because there is any physical reason they can't.
This guy is making the same argument that people do when they claim it's impossible to make a phone waterproof while also having a removable battery even though these phones already existed and it's a super basic solution. It's just ignorance and loud opinions all around.
"I don't share your use case, therefore your preference is invalid and only mine is correct."
Yeah, I know that one very well.