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He reduces harm by not doing whatever trump would be doing if he were elected last election.
He could be doing more to try and reduce harm or at least least to promote harm, but trump would have made it so much worse.
Just remember, trump could have been elected in 2020 and been in office the last few years instead while this was all going on. Does anyone think Palestine would be in a better position if that were the case?
You sound in bad faith or unaware of the situation
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_support_for_Israel_in_the_Israel%E2%80%93Hamas_war
"The Joe Biden administration stated that Israel would receive "whatever it needs" to support its offensive against the Hamas-ruled Gaza Strip."
I guess "whatever it needs" it's still better than sending israel atomic bombs or draft every american citizen to go there. Make sure to advertise for them so they can still send israel "whatever it needs" and not for example for a third party that would do what it's needed to stop the genocide.
You sound in bad faith or unaware of what Trump has said.
Trump's quotes on the genocide:
Israel should "finish the problem."
On Biden's administration: “Frankly, they got soft.”
"When President Trump is back in the Oval Office, Israel will once again be protected, Iran will go back to being broke, terrorists will be hunted down, and the bloodshed will end.”
“Fully support Israel defeating, dismantling, and permanently destroying the terrorist group Hamas,” while telling the Republican Jewish Coalition later that month that Hamas fighters “will burn forever in the eternal pit of hell." That month, his campaign also said that, if elected again, he would bar Gaza residents from entering the U.S. as part of an expanded travel ban.
“Gaza’s waterfront property could be very valuable,”
That's not a real answer.
It is in so much as anyone can look at what trump did in his first term, and what the consequences of that term have been. Such as roe
What relevance is Roe v Wade to Gaza?
None, it's an abstract to highlight what was (during the trump presidency) and what is (the trump judicial appointment consequences).
To be closer to Gaza, we can look at the koshoggi assassination inaction, the soleimani assassination, and the infamous "Muslim ban" to gain contextual basis for trump's expected stance on anything Gaza related.
There's lots of rambling talk by trump on the middle east, but as example related to my list, this article describes his opinion of gazans pretty well. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/oct/17/trump-muslim-ban-gaza-refugees
How is that different to what Biden has done in his term? None of those are related to Gaza. Biden has done zero to limit Israel in any way whatsoever. Biden pulled all US troops out of Afghanistan in a clusterfuck of a manner; I don't think he has done anything to merit saying he's better than Trump in that regard.
Did you not make it to the end of my comment?
I went from abstract concepts that can inform what we think will happen, to direct examples from the middle east, including his own speech about gazans themselves.
We have no indication that trump would deviate from current stance on supporting Israeli or Saudi objectives, including with funding. He did that while he is in office, so funding is a moot point.
Though Afghanistan certainly turned into a mess, I think we should be happy we left. The issues for me on that relate to supporters/translators that we should have gotten out. But that's the cold nature of the MIC and certainly wouldn't be any different if trump had won. You think trump would care about some "nobody" who got left behind? Obviously not, he's described American soldiers who die or are captured as losers, so another moot point in my book.
You can replace that with Biden.
Yes. From your link:
"If you support Hamas or any ideology that’s having to do with that or any of the other really sick thoughts that go through people’s minds – very dangerous thoughts – you’re disqualified.”
The quote is talking about Gazans who support Hamas, not Gazans in general.
I do not think Afghanistan would have been better under Trump, but Biden is the one responsible for the shitshow.
Biden isnt running dude. I'm not stanning for Biden.
What do you think this conversation thread is about?
Voting, and trump.
From above:
And Biden, and Harris (who is currently VP).
There is nothing which shows there is anything better under Biden (and likely Harris since she's currently in power and has made no effort to show she's different in approach).