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[-] bigbrowncommie69@hexbear.net 93 points 1 month ago

I don't get why they don't just make these villains self-interested megalomaniacs like the old days. Focus the drama on the protagonist instead.

[-] KoboldKomrade@hexbear.net 84 points 1 month ago

Because a few movies did "tragic villain" decently, audiences liked the switch-up, and the talentless hacks took it to mean that ever villain has to be "complex".

[-] CthulhusIntern@hexbear.net 33 points 1 month ago

Those writers completely miss the point that the best sympathetic villains are the ones where their feelings of anger or other emotions that made them this way are somewhat justified, but the actions they take because of them are definitely not.

[-] came_apart_at_Kmart@hexbear.net 6 points 1 month ago

Nero from the first ST reboot was this. "my family/planet was lost: go crazy and waste everybody"

[-] edge@hexbear.net 67 points 1 month ago

self-interested megalomaniacs

So billionaires?

[-] CthulhusIntern@hexbear.net 26 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Lex Luthor is the best comic book supervillain EVAR.

[-] Diuretic_Materialism@hexbear.net 8 points 1 month ago

Especially cuz he's just pissed about being bald

[-] sharedburdens@hexbear.net 55 points 1 month ago

The villain is the protagonist in most superhero movies, the superheroes are generally the ones maintaining a vague status quo in the antagonist role

[-] bigbrowncommie69@hexbear.net 8 points 1 month ago

Only in the bad ones

[-] barrbaric@hexbear.net 54 points 1 month ago

Nolan's batman movies did really well and they had more "grounded" villains (well, so long as you ignore scarecrow, ras al ghul, bane, talia al ghul...), so this one tried to follow the same trend. It also apparently brought in Nolan's tory politics and utter contempt for the poor. Remember when Bane stages a people's revolution in Gotham only to then decide he's going to nuke the city for no reason?

[-] MyEyeballStings@hexbear.net 45 points 1 month ago

I was gonna say that they did make Lex Luthor a billionaire tech-bro asshole in the Superman movie, but then I also remembered that his opposition to Superman was out of a commitment to a bizarre interpretation of reddit-atheism, and didn't have anything to do with competing visions of the social good.

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