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Fake 'Leftists'
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Try 75 years.
Anyways, it's always been a taboo subject. Before the last year's atrocities, any criticism of Israel was outside of the Overton window and as such nobody would listen.
Some of us have been complaining to deaf ears for decades.
That more people are speaking up now isn't because people only just started caring. It's because it wasn't socially acceptable before and as such people held back for fear of being ostracized by their peers.
Because Republicans are impossible to convince. No use wasting time trying to persuade those that DEFINITELY won't listen.
Conversely, some Democrats MIGHT listen, so those are the ones you have to appeal to.
That's a ridiculous strawman. Maybe an infinitesimal number if people do that, but even then it's purely rhetorical in most cases.
It's a classic case of an ad hominem as well. There's nothing wrong with the claim that you should expect better from the leaders of the party supposed to represent everyone to the left of literal fascism, so instead you attack the people making the claim, inventing sinister intent.
That's a really weird argument to make against people no longer willing to accept enabling and normalizing the genocide and countless other crimes against humanity of a fascist apartheid regime.
But you still think people should just shut up and meekly accept it because their dissent is inconvenient to you.
What fucking improvements? Things in Gaza and now Lebanon are worse than they've been for decades and apart from holding back PART of ONE weapons shipment amongst hundreds, the US government has done nothing but Susan Collins scowling at it while INCREASING the usual support in the form of weapons and financial aid.
No, what's unconscionable is the continued support for Israel. What's unconscionable is to dismiss all dissent as the sinister machinations of bad actors.
Says the one who's spent two paragraphs condemning and accusing of nefarious intent those who dare criticize their leaders.
You could just as easily be talking about yourself or the leaders you aim to shield from any dissent. If you were, you'd even be right.
Attacking and smearing people you claim to agree with for holding your favorite politicians accountable for their actions isn't right, though. That IS some Blue MAGA cultlike shit.
Yeah, I'm responding to one right now.
Again with the fucking strawmen. Nobody is saying that it's easy to break with decades of zionist hegemony of American politics.
That doesn't mean that doing so isn't the only morally defensible AND tactically sound course of action.
This you?
Found one!
Not all Republicans are unreachable. The Nazis sure. But that isn't all of them by a long shot. And BTW, thanks so much for proving my point. Big props.
False. It's literally a fascist party. If you vote for the fascist party that thinks Israel should "get the job done", you don't consider either a deal breaker and as such can not be reached by reason or appeals to your conscience. You have none left of either.
Right back at you, Dunning Kruger poster child.
Your projection and othering of anyone who disagrees with you that the lives of millions of people aren't worth advocating for if it's inconvenient to your leaders is textbook MAGA, whether Blue or not.