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Honey (mander.xyz)

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[-] bstix@feddit.dk 21 points 1 month ago

Honey is a by-product of bees, the same way that all human made food is a by-products of humans.

[-] pyre@lemmy.world 25 points 1 month ago

so if I buy food from people I'm basically a cannibal

[-] Hammocks4All@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 month ago

I think it’s more accurate to think of you trapping humans in your basement and leaving them a bag of groceries every once in a while. Then you go down there and take whatever they cooked with the produce. They get to eat what they make, you just get the leftovers. They also can’t leave.

[-] ThermonuclearCactus@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Actually if bees don't like the hive you put them in, they absolutely will leave. I haven't had happen to me personally but I have heard of it happening to others; you put the package in and come back to find that 200$+ worth of bees just upped and flew away.

[-] Spacenut@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago

This isn't true for the vast majority of commercial honey unfortunately. If you're buying it from the supermarket, or any producer that operates at even medium scale, they'll clip the wings of the queen so that the hive is unable to leave even if they want to.

[-] ThermonuclearCactus@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

And then they lose the hive anyway due to CCD or some nutrient deficiency that results from only consuming almond nectar.

[-] Unforeseen@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago

"Hive looks like someone put it together like a wasp.. 0/5 stars"

[-] mindaika@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 month ago

So… capitalism?

[-] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

No under capitalism the owner gets everything what you make and they will reward you with just enough scraps to keep working.

Joking aside, bees technically have the freedom to escape captivity and leave their hive. I think that is a spot on comparison to how work and living in society is often made up to be a voluntary choice and we're free to go live elsewhere.

[-] AllOutOfBubbleGum@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

"Worker bees can leave

Even drones can fly away

The queen is their slave"

~ Chuck Palahniuk

[-] Hammocks4All@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 month ago

Yes capitalism sucks for humans, animals, and the rest of the planet.

[-] Yeller_king@reddthat.com 3 points 1 month ago

Sure if the humans have no idea they are in captivity and their lives are basically the same they would have been otherwise.

[-] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago

Except the leftovers part, bees don't make "extra" or "leftover" honey.

[-] meliaesc@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

Seems more akin to letting them milk themselves and collecting it from the fridge.

[-] Hammocks4All@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 month ago

I don’t think so. Bees make honey for food. Humans drink their mother’s milk as babies, sure, but they don’t keep producing milk and storing it as food as a regular practice.