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Abuse is abuse rule (lemmy.world)

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[-] drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world 12 points 13 hours ago

This will keep happening as long as the left treats any acknowledgement of mens issues as a moral failing

[-] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 13 points 13 hours ago

What left is doing that?

[-] drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world 5 points 13 hours ago

How? By refusing to accept that female on male abuse is a thing. Go find a mainstream leftist place and bring it up. See what happens

[-] needthosepylons@lemmy.world 8 points 6 hours ago

That's truly a joke.

It is my current understanding, from various experiences - and I want to state that I publicly engage with men and women who've had violent experiences in various ways on a regular basis - that men are FAR more likely to be supported when facing domestic violence by the left, the very same woke/feminist left.

The right? They don't give a flying f*ck. As always. The incels and their variants? They don't care. They're in a political crusade against social justice.

[-] drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago

So where are the men's shelters? Why is female on male abuse considered funny? And I don't care what conservatives think

[-] needthosepylons@lemmy.world 5 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

Who considers female on male abuse funny? I have yet too see any feminist, any worker in a shelter, any of those, find any kind of domestic violence funny.

I'm not talking about Xitter pen keyboard heroes here. I mean real people.

Who's laughing at violence against men?

Taters, conservatives, and their kind, high representatives of the most toxic masculinity.

You clearly can't begin to fathom what's it's like for people who experienced violence and domestic violence. I've never seen a female survivor not listening to a male survivor. I've never seen a left wing feminist working with female survivors not taking a male survivor seriously.

Actually, from my experience, which, I think, is significant at least in my country and generation, they're literally the ONLY ONES who take them seriously (except some of their close ones, friends and family, of course - not all will, but some may).

[-] drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

Look through this thread. Look at the people bitching about the comic. But please keep telling me how much kinder and better women are.

[-] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 11 points 13 hours ago

We’re in one right now and that isn’t happening.

[-] gerbler@lemmy.world 8 points 10 hours ago

Whew that was quick https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/comment/14541652

[-] drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world 9 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

Lemmy isn't mainstream. Most people, even the terminally online don't know it exists

[-] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 0 points 12 hours ago

I'm skeptical that there exists any leftist mainstream place that isn't actually a right-wing place disguised as leftist.

I'm also skeptical that all of those loud but irrational voices are genuine. Especially given Russia's MO for online trolling where they push both sides of any issue to extremes to sow division. Not to say that I believe everyone on the left is rational and reasonable. But why would the tone be so different between "mainstream" and "non-mainstream" left places if the position you're talking about is as ubiquitous to the left as you claim it is?

[-] drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago

Looking at how many people are angry about this ki da proves your point.

[+] LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world -16 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

It's not a "thing" compared to male on female abuse which is significantly more pervasive and takes up more attention. Its obviously a thing in that it happens. Most women would rather focus on reducing male violence which typically will benefit male survivors. Just like how structures that help women sexual assault survivors also tend to help the few male survivors and so we don't per se need to explicitly help the smaller male demographic, since they are included and the larger female demographic still hasn't been served either.

We just don't care to hear you sealion about these abuse victims when you do nothing for EITHER demographic and instead use male victims to deny help for women and thus men. It's not about giving men help, it's about being a vulnerable narcissist and making women a bad guy.