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submitted 1 week ago by Angel@hexbear.net to c/vegan@hexbear.net

It's why I don't use the term myself.

Are there instances where vegenaises* do use their chuddiness to give God awful takes on things like Israel's veganwashing? Yes.

Are there instances where it seems like some vegans need to be educated on the fact that other forms of oppression beyond the kind of oppression that the movement is fighting against can exist within that movement? Yes.

Are there vegans who just do some all-around cracKKKer shit that makes it seem like they're completely forgetting the anti-oppression nature of the animal liberation movement? Yes.

But let's be real here: most of the times that people have gripes with "white veganism" are just instances where they're trying to reconcile the cognitive dissonance of harboring a reactionary sentiment (anti-veganism) and leftism simultaneously.

Let's not forget that many of these fuckers who do this are white themselves and have also proven themselves to be totally inconsiderate of the voices of BIPOC vegans.

*vegenaise = vegan mayo = white vegan

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[-] Hexboare@hexbear.net 12 points 1 week ago

it is unfortunately common to see vegan activists juxtaposing animal agriculture to historical injustices posed on marginalized communities

This one really breaks some people even though it's the most obvious - if you conceive of some people as (non-human) animals, then the treatment of human livestock is going to look pretty similar to non-human livestock.

I default to not even talking about traditional diets and traditional hunting because barely anyone can do it anymore - I was with some mob up North a few months ago who would traditionally hunt dugong for use in cultural procedures but haven't got 50 years to let the population recover from overfishing and illegal fishing. There's definitely a tension between cultural relativism and intervention.

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