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submitted 2 weeks ago by Evilsandwichman@hexbear.net to c/chapotraphouse@hexbear.net

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I'm back on reddit for one hour and I'm actually arguing with some of the stupidest people on the planet who keep pivoting back to blaming protesters and can't blame the DNC for even a single minute. So many people, so, so, so many people who all just want to blame the protesters and won't say a single word about how Biden and Kamala tanked their election.

They literally keep going back and talking about the protesters, literally, and LITERALLY won't say a word in their response in criticism of Kamala or Biden. This is utterly ridiculous; I left reddit initially because of the shocking amounts of bigotry and now I'm heading off again because these people are pigheaded children in response to people refusing to vote for genociders; they're literally mocking that the protesters are protesting and even claiming they're just doing it for tiktok and don't actually care.

These people are so hateful and vile. God I wish I could teleport them into Gaza.

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[-] Wes4Humanity@lemm.ee 2 points 2 weeks ago

Peasants
Aristocracy

Just pointing out that the titles have changed, but the roles haven't

I agree with everything you "briefly" stated lol

But I guess I just wonder how we get from where we are, to the global awakening of the peasants you're talking about... USSR might have done it, but that was just 1 country so the oligarchy was able to rally the rest of the countries against them. I'd also say that where you're putting "the US did something" I'd say the global oligarchy did it using the US military machine... The people of the US have never really had a say (same for most countries)

[-] landlords_morghulis@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Just pointing out that the titles have changed, but the roles haven’t

I don't want to quote paragraphs here, but read chapter 1 which gives a pretty simple intro to that analysis.

But I guess I just wonder how we get from where we are, to the global awakening

For me to answer that would mean poorly paraphrasing the sources I listed. The scientific analysis of this question has been done, and the historical examples we can learn from have been written. Both are fascinating and engaging once we get over the hurdles of our societal conditioning. Historical truth seen in contrast to the western narrative is radicalizing. I recommend going through that material and seeing what questions you have afterward.

I know that sounds like a brushoff; it isn't. Our shared understanding of the scientific analysis of the problem really is how we crack the nut of class consciousness. We have to coherently understand the problem to effectively communicate it and wake up others, and the success of that process is borne out by history. Without class consciousness we will never cohere to fight our class struggle. We all awaken in this system as individuals; you, me, all of us. The capitalist system will show us its contradictions, the existing ML analysis gives us a framework for understanding and communicating those contradictions.

I’d also say that where you’re putting “the US did something” I’d say the global oligarchy did it using the US military machine

I hope I don't sound condescending, but learn the history of the empire and imperialism. It's an endless bloody nightmare in the intentional blindspot of US history. Americans realizing they've been lied to about pretty much everything is part of the fun.