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submitted 2 days ago by dat_math@hexbear.net to c/vegan@hexbear.net

Conservation of mass?

Do they understand that producing energy and fertilizer using the bodies of animals is less efficient than producing the same number of calories or mass of nitrates from plants+less-energy-than-is-required-to-raise-the-animal-in-question?

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[-] Luna@hexbear.net 27 points 2 days ago

I don't know if it's all of them, but I know someone who said that veganism is actually more harmful for the planet because plants need pesticides and fertilizer, which kill bugs. It took no effort to challenge them on that at all.

[-] RoabeArt@hexbear.net 16 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Sounds like my coworker who argued that veganism kills more animals than meat does, due to the pest control measures that might be necessary to protect crops.

As if pest control isn't a thing in the meat industry from the feed crops, to the feed lots, to the barns to the slaughterhouses. They think the cattle that made the steak they're eating just materialized out of thin air or something and didn’t require a shit ton of energy and resources to grow it.

[-] Luna@hexbear.net 7 points 2 days ago

Yep, that exact point.

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