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They’re working tirelessly for a ceasefire though, don’t worry.

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[-] propter_hog@hexbear.net 35 points 1 month ago

So why does the US have a veto vote anyway? Seems like no one should

[-] principalkohoutek@hexbear.net 34 points 1 month ago

Cuz they were on the winning side of WW2. Security council veto power is held by China, US, UK, France, and Russia

[-] TraschcanOfIdeology@hexbear.net 17 points 1 month ago
[-] ClimateChangeAnxiety@hexbear.net 9 points 1 month ago

If the veto power is going to exist we should be honest about what it means and it should be “every country with nukes”

The DPRK should be a permanent member of the security council

[-] bbnh69420@hexbear.net 5 points 1 month ago
[-] Justice@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 1 month ago

Should be noted, for clarity, that this was intended to be 4/5 pro-US vs the 5th (USSR- then an ally, soon to not be obviously)

Then Mao beat Chiang Kai-shek and drove his loser ass from the country (to Taiwan)

Kai-shek was being groomed and setup to be America's puppet leader of China. Unfortunately for him and the US, the people's liberation army had other plans...

So the vote that was reserved for China now belonged to a fresh communist nation. How did America/the west want to "fix" this? "Create a new definition of China" effectively. This is why Taiwan was officially recognized as China for so long (1979! like 3 decades after communist victory). Like Taiwan was the "real China" and mainland China was illegally occupied by... other Chinese people.

The UN formally recognized the People's Republic of China as "real China" in 1971...

[-] MayoPete@hexbear.net 26 points 1 month ago

Right? There should be a veto override mechanism so you can't block things literally EVERY OTHER COUNTRY wants with your one vote.

Abolish the UN

[-] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 25 points 1 month ago

Originally the veto was for USSR blocking imperialist movement from the US and their stooges of UK, France and RoC. Without it UN would be just yet another arm of US apparatus.

[-] propter_hog@hexbear.net 26 points 1 month ago

The UN is yet another arm of US apparatus, though

[-] BashfulBob@hexbear.net 20 points 1 month ago

So why does the US have a veto vote anyway?

Perks of being a Founding Member (with Nukes). The veto is intended to illustrate the Superpower status of the nation and the implicit necessity of their consent before your UN Peacekeepers collide with US War Profiteers.

[-] CrawlMarks@hexbear.net 18 points 1 month ago

If we didn't have the veto we would simply hire nazis to make a new nato for ourselves and give us veto power. Which... I think is exactly what happened in the first place if I think about the league of nations.

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