BadEmpanada is fine for entertainment, but Jesus he has plenty of off the cuff bad takes. (www.youtube.com)

submitted 4 days ago by ButtBidet@hexbear.net to c/chapotraphouse@hexbear.net

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The TLDR of the video is that the Russian invasion of Ukraine was bad, and that Western and Ukrainian aggression didn't poke the tiger. He doesn't mention that the West could end the war tomorrow.

To be fair, I'm not pro Putin. I know Russians in Russia who are risking their safety to be peace activists, which is the correct and noble position to have in Russia. An Australian guy taking the position that Putin bad just seems easy and is doing the work of the State department.

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[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 54 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Agree that this is a very bad take. There are Cable leaks from US diplomat going back DECADES that confirm just how serious the notion of Ukraine joining nato was to Russia and that it would likely mean a war if it ever came to fruition.

This is 2008 so it's pre 2014 coup

I think the other side of this that's rarely talked about are the families with members that were on the ukrainian side and the russian side. For Russia a huge issue with Ukraine joining nato is the quantity of families with individuals who then become nato and will be turned into natoites. The effect that these family members will have on their family across the border is of major concern. They don't want a base being created for colour revolution, or worse.

[-] mbt2402@hexbear.net 28 points 4 days ago

america has a long and storied history of ignoring the advice of their ambassadors. Not that the stupidity is a defence, but it is believable to me that natos were surprised.