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submitted 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) by DragonofKnowledge@lemmy.dbzer0.com to c/asklemmy@lemmy.world

Pretty much the title sums it up. There's a lot to be concerned about, and one thing I find personally disconcerting is how US educational systems might be impacted.

Do we need to make backups of, like, everything educational and scientific? And where are all the places and forms that we can host these materials?

Edit: to everyone saying it shouldn't be an issue because Trump/US doesn't control information in the rest of the world, keep in mind that is little comfort to those of us here if access to that information becomes restricted as well. We should be seeking to hedge all bets.

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[-] Stovetop@lemmy.world 38 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I'm not expecting much to be banned or censored, per se, but I can see more GOP-controlled states removing a lot of LGBT books and other media from schools.

In general, education in the US is left to the states, which means I'd mainly just expect a continuation of the trend we've been seeing for a few years now in places like Florida and Tennessee of removing queer books from schools.

From the federal perspective, I'd also anticipate the possibility of FAFSA being gutted and making higher ed inaccessible to more students. If this sort of content is not covered in public schools, there will be fewer opportunities to study queer literature later on. And even then, state universities in red states are subject to the same restrictions as their public schools, so those students may be SOL unless they have the means to study out of state.

The main problem is: even if the material remains pretty freely available outside of schools, how do you make the people who would benefit from it the most feel driven to seek it out independently?

[-] Ledivin@lemmy.world 37 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

A climate change denier will head of the EPA.

A vaccine denier will be our Health Secretary.

An oil exec will head the Department of Energy.

Trump has been vocally pro-book bans in the past, and the modern GOP has never been against it, and has even been doing it at an increasing rate over the past few years.

These are people that are happy to remove other people that disagree with them. You really don't think they're going to remove books and papers? lol

[-] Stovetop@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The only thing is that there's not really a vehicle for the fed to implement those bans. For all the weaknesses in the US constitution, freedom of speech is a historically tough nut for the government to crack. Not that they haven't tried, but they have almost no control over what media is and is not allowed to be published publicly.

What is working is when states get to decide what material to provide in schools. That includes required curriculum and what books they will buy and offer in classrooms and libraries. So the state can teach (or not teach) whatever they want within the confines of their own schools, but there's nothing they could do if, say, someone was to set up shop on the sidewalk across the street and hand out free copies of Gender Queer to any students who walk by. Nor could the fed, as it stands.

So we've led our horses to water, but how do we make them drink? How do you convince the students to want to pick up that book and read it for fun, and how can you help them understand what it all means when the critical reading skills for queer literature are not being taught?

[-] protist@mander.xyz 1 points 1 week ago

Remove books and papers from where? The government in the US has influence on this, for sure, but there is no mechanism for the government to interfere with the private ownership of literature

[-] MossyFeathers@pawb.social 17 points 1 week ago

Homosexuality is still technically illegal in Texas; they just aren't allowed to enforce it. If they strip away the supreme court precedents regarding LGBT discrimination, then those kinds of laws will automatically go back into effect.

[-] davidagain@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

I’m not expecting much to be banned or censored, per se, but I can see more GOP-controlled states removing a lot of LGBT books and other media from schools.

What is this if it's not censorship?!

But Trump has also promised to put media that criticise him in jail, and I believe he really means it, and he's surrounding himself with people who are as crazy as he is.

[-] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 0 points 1 week ago

From the federal perspective, I'd also anticipate the possibility of FAFSA being gutted and making higher ed inaccessible to more students.

Student loans has been one of the most effective tools to enslave domestic middle class population. You don't under the role they play hence why you don't understand why the state won't restrict the loan origination. I expect Trump to come in harder on the borrowers tbh to extract extra revenue and to just punk the stupid plebs for "majoring in ljberal arts"

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