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[-] eldavi@lemmy.ml 0 points 18 hours ago

we've seen what lengths americans would go through to enable a clueless entitled white man to win over an intelligent and accomplished minority woman; shienbaum's personality is going to clash badly with trumps and i hope that there are enough intermediaries between them to stop the worst of it from happening.

[-] StalinistSteve@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 14 minutes ago

I know you don't mean Harris, but I don't know why anyone's going to bat for the head of a settler state who isn't even a SocDem. Yeah she believes in climate change, but like... she's a mestizo operating an incredibly violent settler state that's very complicit in US imperialism. It's not disimilar than advocating for Harris because she doesn't revel as much in xenophobic rhetoric

[-] ksynwa@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 2 hours ago

For what it is worth I was able to gather that you meant Sheinbaum and but Harris

[-] eldavi@lemmy.ml 1 points 23 minutes ago

I messed up on drawing the parallel with trump and it derailed the point that I was trying to make; but thanks for getting it anyways

[-] Addfwyn@lemmygrad.ml 21 points 15 hours ago

to win over an intelligent and accomplished minority woman

That is one of the most generous descriptions I have ever heard of her, unless you mean accomplished in war crimes. People going to bat for either side of the US Party are missing the point.

[-] eldavi@lemmy.ml -1 points 14 hours ago

What evidence exists for sheinbaum's war crimes?

[-] Addfwyn@lemmygrad.ml 15 points 14 hours ago

we’ve seen what lengths americans would go through to enable a clueless entitled white man to win over an intelligent and accomplished minority woman

As USians did not elect Trump (presumably the clueless entitled white man) over Sheinbaum, the reasonable assumption here is that the "intelligent and accomplished minority woman" you were referencing was Harris, no? Sheinbaum wasn't running against an entitled white man.

[-] eldavi@lemmy.ml 2 points 11 hours ago

no

sheinbaum is a minority in mexico and well is accomplished & intelligent. i was using trump's experience with kamala to draw a parallel to how i believe both sheinbaum & trump will work with each other; anything that sheinbaum rightfully sticks to is automatically going to be a losing issue with her and it will cost her political legacy in mexico as well as justifying trump's actions towards mexico in american's eyes, trump will win all his altercations with her as a result.

[-] Xavienth@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 5 hours ago

Right, but in drawing this parallel to describe Sheinbaum, you have also implied Kamala possesses those same qualities in the parallel.

[-] eldavi@lemmy.ml 2 points 27 minutes ago

Kamala's only relatively flawless compared to trump and that's an extremely low bar (eg Gaza genocide) whereas shienbaum is truly flawless compared to anyone.

[-] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 14 hours ago

lol dont be disingenous, you clearly worded it referring to kamala.

[-] eldavi@lemmy.ml 3 points 11 hours ago

i was using kamala & trumps debate as an example of what sheinbaum's relationship is going to look like.

[-] SadArtemis@hexbear.net 14 points 15 hours ago

No offense (offense) but lmao

Also, for all his infinite issues (and the fact both are undeniably terrible, bigoted, and genocidal people no decent person should ever support) Trump is if nothing else more ""intelligent"" and even- ergh- ""accomplished"" than Kopmala (the bar is in hell for both of them). What exactly has Kopmala done to her name other than terrorize poor people and minorities? And don't tell me that she got her role for her accomplishments or whatever (POC and a woman myself and let's not kid ourselves here lol) or that she did anything in her role (not that Biden did either, probably).

[-] eldavi@lemmy.ml 4 points 11 hours ago

i was referring to sheinbaum.

[-] SadArtemis@hexbear.net 10 points 10 hours ago

Fair enough, admittedly your comment wasn't assumed to be referring to Sheinbaum by anyone FWIW (the wording made it sound more like Trump v. Kamala)

[-] eldavi@lemmy.ml 1 points 25 minutes ago

Yes, I can see that now and I'm wondering how anyone could think of a genocide enabling diet republican as intelligent or accomplished or that anyone besides Americans have minority women

[-] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 14 hours ago

she threw people in jail, she is accomplished!

[-] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 22 points 18 hours ago

I expect Mexico will likely just turn towards BRICS if US throws up a hissy fit

[-] Addfwyn@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 15 hours ago

I could see that, and would be all for it. At least partnership status, if not a full member.

[-] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 15 hours ago

I recall reading there was some talk about precisely that.

[-] eldavi@lemmy.ml 8 points 16 hours ago

it's more likely that they'll instigate another regime change in mexico should any administration ever suggest moving away from the dollar.

[-] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 13 points 16 hours ago

Regime change schemes only work when they're able to destabilize the economy first. That's precisely what BRICS prevents from happening.

[-] trashxeos@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 12 hours ago

Exactly, by allowing trade of most commodities in non dollar denominated assets, it prevents the US from seizing control of a given country's trade. The world put up with sanctions for decades but the USA freezing dollar denominated treasury securities of Russia and Iran absolutely shot themselves in the foot. It showed the world that Washington has lost any remaining semblance of the plot they still had (as little as it was) and that they absolutely need to get away from us as fast as possible.

Additionally, IMF debt traps are increasingly making austerity common in places where people's entire lives happen at a cost of less than the average meal in the imperial core. China's BRI moves have opened actually fair trade for a bunch of countries that were being crushed by world bank. The rest of world is taking notes, hegemonic control in Washington is breaking apart and being washed away. Soon, the dam will fail and wash away, taking all of the resources Americans need with it.

If Washington was smart, they'd start working on actually shoring up American manufacturing capacity, but we know they're not going to do that, they're going to try and use CIA tactics, which may or may not work to various degrees, and then look confused AF when they're being [redacted] later.

(sorry, got a bit off topic at the end, adhd hit hard all of a sudden but I think it mostly follows a logical path through those thoughts so I'll leave it)

[-] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 11 hours ago

The war in Ukraine will absolutely be taught in history books as the catalyst for the fall of the western empire.

[-] trashxeos@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 11 hours ago

I only hope I live to see the day where I can read that book.

[-] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 10 hours ago

Yeah, hope we'll make it through the next couple of months without Biden starting a nuclear holocaust.

[-] trashxeos@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 8 hours ago

Honestly, considering the warhawks already announced for the Trump cabinet, even Biden leaving isn't a guarantee the government doesn't press that button anytime soon.

[-] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 1 hour ago

I do think Trump will wind down Ukraine, but we'll probably see an escalation with China instead. Most of the hawks he picked are China hawks.

[-] eldavi@lemmy.ml 1 points 11 hours ago

that's how it works with normal regime changes; but the americans were able to push the pri out despite a relatively decent economy and they have the ability to do it again with something like the cartels.

[-] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 10 hours ago

We'll see how it goes, but I don't think the US today has the power to accomplish such feats.

[-] eldavi@lemmy.ml 1 points 18 minutes ago* (last edited 16 minutes ago)

It takes an almost a trivial effort for the Americans to destabilize Mexico. All they need to do is train another zetas like group again with the schools that already exist and training that they've perfected over the decades and you have another generation of guaranteed violence and social upheaval that will leave the populace willing to accept peace at the barrel of an American gun; again

[-] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 7 minutes ago

Again, track record hasn't been so good for US destabilizing nations in the past decade. I think you're vastly overestimating the capabilities the empire has at the present moment. In any case, we will see. I don't see any point arguing further about this. Either it will happen or not. I don't think it's in the cards.

[-] QuillQuote@hexbear.net 10 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

an observably incompetant and ontologically evil genocide enabling war crime supporting proud-of-all-those-families-she-tore-apart-as-a-prosecuter ass piece of shit, you mean

She is no hero and no role model, she is a detestable criminal who, with the help of the criminally complicit democratic party failed the american people, not the other way around. people who voted for Kamala for any reason other than ignorance sicken me, this is a dead empire, what is done now will not cause any reduction in harm in the end, all you do is make yourself willfully complicit in the crimes of this guilty land.

[-] eldavi@lemmy.ml 1 points 11 hours ago

agreed; but i was referring to sheinbaum.

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