In addition to what MattsAlt said, the people in possession of those things still rely on you and me to meet all their wants and needs. So a crucial first step before they become edible is for us to stop meeting their wants and needs. Exactly who "possesses" what starts to become a little more ambiguous when that happens.
Beat inflation at the grocery store (and everywhere else) with this one simple trick. Capitalists hate it!
They have published some real bullshit before, but yeah, when I check in from time to time wsws.org is usually pretty good. Like surprisingly good for Trots.
China is indeed moving in the right direction. That doesn't mean I think China is a force of good in the world.
Then what would? If the fact that China is doing good in the world is not enough for you to think "it a force for good in the world" then what does it need to do? Oh, I forgot, you think "all nation states are bad by definition" and unironically believe that the more people a government represents, the more evil it is. So in order for China to be "a force for good in the world" China simply has to cease to exist. Got it. Nope, that doesn't align with US interests at all.
It's a nation state and should be subject to criticism. And all I'm saying is that there are people who will religiously dogpile you if you try to do that, and I call those people tankies.
Literally no one on lemmy has ever said China is above criticism. I dare you to find a single instance of that ever happening.
lmao. I unironically believe this though.
The more you concentrate power, the harder it is to keep bad actors from abusing said power.
What makes you think the power over those billion+ people is all "concentrated"? Could it be (gasp!) that the power is largely distributed among those people who overwhelmingly support that government? This is just capitalist-realism-brained misunderstanding of how communist parties work.
Most Americans approve of capitalism. Does that make it good too?
No, but that's certainly not what makes it bad.
China is a government that rules over billions of people. That is, by definition, evil.
Funny how 95% of the Chinese population approves of and rates favorably this terrible "ruling over" they are being subjected to.
New theory just dropped, everyone: The more people a government represents, the more evil that government is.
Anyone who uses the term "tankie" unironically to disparage other leftists is a lib. Anyone who uses the term ironically to make fun of those who don't is a leftist. But you're right, conservatives don't know what it means, they also don't know that they are libs as well.
Why do you care about how they vote? It literally doesn't matter.
I agree that voting doesn't matter in terms of making a material difference in the social hierarchy because the US is not a democracy. However, who a person votes for (or whether they vote) is an indication of their values, which are in turn an indication of their future behavior, and anyone who votes for the regime that is currently conducting a fucking genocide demonstrates either their ignorance (which it seems OP's friend cannot claim as a so-called socialist) or a fundamental lack of solidarity with those who are being dehumanized, tortured, and murdered, the victims of that genocide. It demonstrates a fundamental lack of solidarity with all oppressed peoples of the world. Just because voting doesn't matter with respect to who wins the election, it sure as hell matters on an interpersonal level.
Find it pretty funny how electoralist brainworms have infected even socialist Americans to the point that they'd think convincing someone not to vote is a useful course of action.
It has next to nothing to do with electoralism as it is only tangentially related to the election itself. Again, it is about a person's position relative to class struggle. If a member of the ruling class were murdering your family and your friend decided to throw in their support to that murderer with the rationalization that that murderer might benefit your friend more than some other murderer, it doesn't matter how inconsequential their support is - it still tells you a great deal about your friend's priorities and interests which don't actually include your dying family or other oppressed people, only themselves.
Or go vote to better maintain a friendship. Or lie about it. Again it simply doesn't matter.
Everything else aside, this is still terrible advice. Lie to your friend about your principles regarding genocide to "better maintain a friendship"? Gross.
Again it simply doesn't matter.
Socialism is not nihilism.
lol you're right. It's all cope and deflection. They're not even on par with fucking CNN in recognizing that their beloved savior just crashed and burned.
Edit:
Ok, nevermind. If we look in the discussion threads, they actually are seeing it for what it is. It's funny either way, and a crack up that it looks like they're still trying to spin it as a win for Biden if you just go by the post topics.
American foreign policy affects the entire world.
And you think Biden's foreign policy hasn't been a much bigger catastrophe for the world than Trump's was? How can you post so good on economics and MMT and China and then post this kind of liberal dredge?
I'm certainly not getting any wiser going through these conversations on repeat and I don't think anyone else is, either.
I bet a lot of lurkers are, including me.
I wish more of our team would disengage.
I wish for the opposite. It's always funny to watch these people fume and sputter when they are faced with dissent instead of the clapping seals they're used to. And I do learn a lot from what hexbears and lemmygradians say even when they're talking to someone unwilling to be educated.
You're not missing anything. I shouldn't have included the pic but I had just seen it minutes before reading the post and it felt like it fit. The one simple trick is what you said: eating the rich.