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[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 13 points 8 months ago

Ukraine lost its sovereignty back in 2014 when the west ran a coup that overthrew the legitimate and democratically elected government. What NATO "support" has accomplished was to ensure that hundreds of thousands of people died, and millions more had their lives ruined without changing the outcome. End of story.

[-] FluffyPotato@lemm.ee -1 points 8 months ago

???

You mean when Yanukovych tried to make himself dictator and killed some protestors for it only to flee when that triggered massive protests and the US wanted the people protesting to accept his deal and not get rid of him?

[-] ksynwa@lemmy.ml 7 points 8 months ago

Should also point out that five police officers were tried for this supposed massacre. The trial itself was shady as shit and Kiev Independent acknowledged that the Ukrainian prosecution sabotaged the proceedings. Out of the five officers on trial, the three that were tried in absentia were conveniently given harsh sentences and the two in attendance did not serve any time, with one being acquited.

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 3 points 8 months ago
[-] FluffyPotato@lemm.ee 0 points 8 months ago

Ah yes a quora post that reads like a conspiracy theory with sources that point to other quora posts. This is why debunking qanon, flat earth and other such conspiracies is such a chore, no one ever has like one credible thing to point to, it's a spiderweb of events that usually don't properly connect but they all have massive documents that try to connect them anyways.

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 0 points 8 months ago

How to say you have poor reading comprehension without saying you have poor reading comprehension.

[-] FluffyPotato@lemm.ee -1 points 8 months ago

It's true: A really high IQ is required to fully comprehend conspiracy posts

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 0 points 8 months ago

I love how you keep referring to well documented facts as conspiracy theories. Really helps highlight the quality of your intellect.

[-] FluffyPotato@lemm.ee 0 points 8 months ago

There are plenty of well documented facts that seemingly support flat earth too and there are hundreds of similar schizo posts with those as that quara post but that doesn't make the earth flat.

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 0 points 8 months ago

the blueAnon has spoken ๐Ÿ˜‚

[-] xor@lemmy.blahaj.zone -3 points 8 months ago

Ooh quora, well known for it's sane and well researched investigative reporting lmao

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 3 points 8 months ago

The article literally links to dozens of mainstream western sources. I love how libs are invariably unable to actually engage with the content, and simply resort to ad hominem when faced with facts that run contrary to their narrative.

[-] xor@lemmy.blahaj.zone -1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

"Quora is not a good source" is not an ad hominem.

libs are invariably unable to actually engage with the content

This, however, is exactly that

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 1 points 8 months ago

Dismissing the source because it's Quora without actually engaging with the content of the source which links to lots of primary sources, is in fact an example of ad hominem.

Pointing out that libs use this tactic however is not.

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