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submitted 3 weeks ago by MicroWave@lemmy.world to c/news@lemmy.world

Summary

UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson, 50, was fatally shot in a premeditated attack outside the New York Hilton Midtown in Manhattan. The gunman, still at large, fired at Thompson multiple times, striking him in the back and calf.

Shell casings found at the scene had the words "deny," "defend," and "depose" written on them, according to law enforcement. Despite known threats, Thompson did not have a security detail.

Surveillance footage shows the assailant ambushing Thompson from behind before fleeing. The motive remains unclear as investigations continue.

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[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 0 points 3 weeks ago

As of about a month ago there had been ~320 murders in NYC this year.

Yet this single one has captured the media's attention nationwide and cops seem to be heavily focused on this one.

Because modern society at pretty much every institutional level sees the wealthy and powerful as not just more important than us, but they dont even see us. Hell, compare this to school shootings that only make local news now.

Historically, societies like this end in an incredibly brutal fashion. And until the wealthy and powerful really can build terminator style robot armies...

The masses are always going to win.

It's kind of the natural consequences of hyper concentration of a finite and essential resource. People rarely sit around and starve voluntarily, and once the majority are starving, people start acting like a mob.

We see it day to day over minor stuff where people just refuse to follow societial norms. Everyday we're shown that rules don't really matter, and none of the people who matter are held accountable. If someone isn't physically stopped from doing something, they take that as permission. Hell, that was the defense of most 1/6ers.

The social contract was invalidated a long time ago, people are just now realizing it. And that's the only thing that really seperates us from animals.

Crashing out is gonna be the norm pretty fucking soon, I don't think we have 4 years or that trump will be able to hold society together.

There's a very high chance we're gonna live in some interesting times.

[-] walden@sub.wetshaving.social 0 points 3 weeks ago

People are interested in it (see Lemmy as an example), and news outlets publish stuff that gets clicks. What's so hard to believe about that?

[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 0 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

The media is treating it like a national tragedy, Walz was giving his condolences for some reason, and so are lots of other politicians.

It's like when those billionaires all died in that submarine and the powerful people that run the media and politics treated it as some huge event and spent crazy money investigating.

They acted like it's was 9/11, because to them $'s are what matters, so when one person with the same amount of $ as 100,000 people, they act like 100,000 average people die.

Do you not see that? The difference between how a wealthy person and a poor person are treated?

America used to have wealth worship, people still to some extent go to the Biltmore mansion to marvel at how nice robber barons lived centuries ago, or binge watch Downtown Abbey. But nowadays the vast amount of people upon hearing something bad happened to a billionaire, will at best say they dont give a fuck.

The contrast between what people are saying, and what they're told by their leaders and the media isn't jivving. And it's obvious.

Look at history...

When societies are at the stage we are now, very very few bare any resemblance to that in just a decade or two. For better or worse, shit is likely to substantially change soon.

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To put it as simple as possible, the masses are told implicitly every day they don't matter and only the wealthy do. Eventually people will start acting like their lives really don't matter.

Which is bad for everyone, and has been happening for a while now. We're just approaching the tipping point where "crashing out" is the majority opinion

[-] secretlyaddictedtolinux@lemmy.world 0 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

This post really rings true. This is the small rumbling before the big quake.

The reason everyone is offering condolences and claiming this is bad is because the government is supposed to have a monopoly on violence, and that offers protection to the elite in society. Even on radical left lemmy, you can be banned for implying this is a good thing.

This person was at the top of a pyramid that lied to and deceived millions of people and made life absolute hell for people undergoing medical problems. He was responsible for that misery. He created hell on earth for those people. He was not that different than a mass-murderer, knowing full well what his policies would do, only his actions were legal.

His company delayed, denied, and defended, and the assailant had an answer to deny and an answer to defend but there was no delay, just a quick deposing of this guy. It was obviously symbolic.

It's funny because the founding fathers of the US had enough of the bullshit from England and so they decided to rebel and used violence to create a New Republic... but their violence made them patriots and heroes. It's just interesting... I haven't seen 1 person call the assailant a hero yet. It's not like the Founding Fathers of the US used rhetoric and voting to persuade England to stop its brutality.

I bet a lot of people are secretly thinking that assailant is a hero. (In accordance with lemmy's policies, I am not saying he is a hero and instead am saying the assailant is very bad and violence is always bad.)

But we're in such gilded-age end-times right now that the corporate media always parrot the idea that violence is always bad... (with the implied part being the government, backing the elite oligarchy, is the exception) and the populace has internalized that thinking out of fear.

We have democracy in this country and should vote in leaders that actually make legislation that is sensible, but it's impossible because the bottom 40 percent of society are brain-washed by religious delusions that the elite thrust upon them in order to make them easier to control. The problems in society are caused by religion and it's just impossible to make the stupidest bottom 40 percent of people stop believing in bullshit.

The elite have given people a choice: gun rights and policies for the rich... or no guns and policies for the poor. There is no middle class pro-gun party and it's by design. We need to have liberals start embracing the NRA because any gun regulation seems toxic to middle America, and for good reason. To anyone who say the Democrats are not an anti-gun party, you're lying and everyone can see through it. Any gun regulation is a slow decent to zero guns for regular people, and working class middle America knows it, which is part of why we keep ending up with these horrible leaders allowing health care in the US to descend into an abyss.

[-] Olgratin_Magmatoe@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

I haven’t seen 1 person call the assailant a hero

I've seen it in a few threads, and they're right.

[-] peto@lemm.ee 0 points 3 weeks ago

Shootings must be rare in NYC given how much attention this one is getting.

[-] dhork@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Um ackshually, NYC is doing better than many other places, at least as far as per-capita homicide statistics go, according to this list I pulled out of Wikipedia:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_cities_by_crime_rate

Sort by "murder and nonnegligent manslaughter" and you find NYC way down on the list. St. Louis, Baltimore, and Detroit is on the top. NYC is not even the worst in the state anymore, Buffalo is worse.

[-] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world 0 points 3 weeks ago

There aren't often assassinations in NYC, unless you're talking mob hits through the years.

[-] peto@lemm.ee 0 points 3 weeks ago

What even is an assassination? It is entirely likely that this is based in a personal grievance. The guy did wrong by a lot of people. Might even have been a tyrannicide.

An assassination is when the victim is wealthy enough for the police to care.

[-] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world -1 points 3 weeks ago

An assassination is a targeted murder, no matter the cause. It's not getting in a fight with someone, or trying to rob someone. You mean to kill that exact person.

[-] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 0 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I sure hope nobody copies this behavior of retribution against the billionaire class which is responsible for almost all of the worlds suffering.

Thoughts and Prayering so hard right now.

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[-] 01011@monero.town 0 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I finally understand what certain people mean when they talk about "good guys with guns".

[-] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 0 points 3 weeks ago

This was always the dream, the picture everyone tried to paint. Grabbing your powderhorn, Putting on your tricorne hat, and defending liberty against tyranny, and all that. It just never really actually happened.

[-] kautau@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago

Lol tricorn hat reminds me of

[-] JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 weeks ago

Tally ho lads.

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