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submitted 1 month ago by Substance_P@lemmy.world to c/news@lemmy.world

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/31683994

Fox News reports that Donald Trump may consider using nuclear weapons to eliminate Iran’s Fordo nuclear facility

The U.S. military has reservations regarding the success of using a bunker-buster bomb, a non nuclear weapon, to eliminate Iran’s Fordo nuclear facility, buried deep in a mountain. Two defense officials were reportedly briefed that only a tactical nuclear weapon could reach the facility.

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[-] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 49 points 1 month ago

Trump will drop a nuke before leaving office. He been begging to use one since his first term. They literally had to stop him from nucking a hurricane. He wants to do it. My worry is he will drop one on an American state.

[-] N0t_5ure@lemmy.world 37 points 1 month ago

I agree with you completely. He's fascinated with nukes, and believes naked demonstrations of power show that he's strong. If he does drop a nuke in Iran, you can guarantee that Russia will use them in Ukraine, and that quickly opens the door to a much wider war in Europe. Strategic thinking is not Trump's strong suit, and he's likely to bumble us into a nuclear WWIII.

[-] Witchfire@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago

I fully expect him to nuke a blue state in a false flag attack. I can't prove it, but I won't be surprised if he does

[-] meyotch@slrpnk.net 10 points 1 month ago

You might enjoy the short run of the TV show Jericho.

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[-] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago

If you can’t prove it, then they are doing the false flag operation right. Well; correctly, anyway.

[-] Buske@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

WHO GETS THE NUKE FIRST? IRAN, GAZA OR THE FIRST HURRICANE OF THE SEASON! sadtimes.

[-] psoul@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

What’s the us city that matches the following:

  • democratic
  • least amount of white people
  • more than 100k inhabitants
  • doesn’t have critical military infrastructure
  • Trump doesn’t go golfing there or at least doesn’t like to
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[-] MumboJumbo@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

My worry is he will drop one on an American state.

Wouldn't be the first time, but those were on accident and thankfully didn't detonate.

Edit to add reference: 1961 Goldsboro B-52 Crash

[-] fahfahfahfah@lemmy.billiam.net 9 points 1 month ago

I mean we also blew up a lot of nukes on American soil on purpose too!

[-] jonne@infosec.pub 4 points 1 month ago

New Mexico had it coming tho.

[-] socsa@piefed.social 5 points 1 month ago
[-] lka1988@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 month ago

Nevada doesn't even own most of Nevada.

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[-] SW42@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

I would be scared if I lived in New Mexico …

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[-] fluxion@lemmy.world 32 points 1 month ago

Same guy that kept ripping on Zelensky for "instigating" nuclear war

[-] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 30 points 1 month ago

Something tells me he has already given the order multiple times but the people around him have to carefully explain to him why that’s a very bad idea until he backs down.

[-] XeroxCool@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

Or they're just running clips of Oppenheimer for him

[-] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 20 points 1 month ago

Then I hope the rest of the world does something about it.

[-] Yawweee877h444@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago

If this were to happen, it would be a green light for Putin.

Let's hope to all fuck that our idiotic congress or who the fuck ever, prevents this abject, fucking, idiocy.

[-] floofloof@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 month ago

Congress isn't stopping him doing anything. I don't see them suddenly changing just to prevent global nuclear war.

[-] oxysis@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 month ago

Congress’ billionaire handlers all have their doomsday prepping done, so they won’t interfere.

[-] charade_you_are@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I thought I could write solid, dark comments but your comment about having our only hopes based solely on congress wins all the awards for darkest comment ever written.

[-] opavader@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

excluding few hard left or right leaders, our entire congress works for aipac so fat chance of that. they will approve nuking LA and SF if israel told them to.

[-] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago

"We want to stop nuclear proliferation by starting a nuclear war." - these fucking geniuses, apparently

[-] Fedizen@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

What is a country? A miserable pile of war crimes.

Turning a habitable area full of innocent people into a pile of radioactive rubble and dying people why? Because fucking the Israeli government wants to genocide palestinians without resistance? Damn we fucking suck as a country

[-] lennybird@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

I'm sure Jesus Christ would definitely 100% want this.

[-] dhork@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

Jesus was a Palestinian Jew, if Trump met Him today he would send Him to CECOT.

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[-] charade_you_are@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 month ago

What a great precedent that would set. Seems like humans are moving towards ending all life on earth. Just another dead rock in an infinite vacuum.

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[-] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

So we'll have a war of aggression with Iran for? We don't like them? Israel has committed more violations of national borders and laws. The KoSA and Egypt's citizens were involved in 9-11 and they are "allies".

[-] skisnow@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 month ago

If any other country did the things Israel has done, we'd be sanctioning them at a minimum. We invaded Iraq both times for less.

[-] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

Hell we made up lies about Iraq

[-] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

This time we are past the need for that. It will all be everchanging bullshit from here on out with the us.

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[-] peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 7 points 1 month ago

Just please wait until after I've seen Dune Messiah a couple dozen times in theaters. Please. That's all I'm asking. I don't even need to get laid again, that ship isnt even that important and it happens to a lot of people every day. I just want to see Dune Messiah before we all die.

[-] hansolo@lemmy.today 6 points 1 month ago

OK, who had "The opening from Threads but in 4K" on their bingo card?

[-] catty@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

"Considers". Fake news. They want the price of oil and gas to go up to please Putin.

[-] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

Ya know, I can’t hate this take.

[-] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 month ago

Gleefully sounding the trumpet for the end of the world

Can somebody please please stop him before he kills us all?

[-] obvs@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

He will commit whatever horrible atrocity he's going to commit, and then the world will say he went too far, and only then will the world put an end to it. But unfortunately, the atrocity will come first.

[-] LovingHippieCat@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

Ah yes, very smart, let's use a nuke to blow up a nuclear facility. There couldn't possibly be a much larger explosion and spread of radiation because of that.

[-] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 month ago

Well, there actually wouldn't be a much larger explosion, that's just not how nukes work.
A nuclear explosion is an incredibly delicate process, and the material just won't go critical because there's another detonation nearby. It's not like dropping a bomb on a dynamite warehouse. There's not a great analogy for what it is like though. Expecting a satellite launch to happen because you blew up a tank of rocket fuel next to it? Not quite there.

Additional contamination from onsite material is a different matter. Most nukes detonate above their target since that maximizes damage, but it also reduces fallout. There would, however, be vaporized material that would be sucked into the air by the vacuum created by the detonation. It's not clear if the presence of radioactive material would make it significantly worse than the general "radioactive dust and molten sand" that would normally be sent into the air.

In general, if you nuke something there's going to be radioactive issues afterwards, and you shouldn't do it. Adding a nuclear facility to the mix is kinda just throwing rocks at the windows on 9/11.

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[-] catloaf@lemm.ee 6 points 1 month ago

Explosion no. Extra fallout, maybe. But the facility we're talking about is deep underground, so even if it happens, hopefully that contains some of the fallout.

[-] Know_not_Scotty_does@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

Unfortunately, ground burst or partial underground bursts are significantly dirtier than air bursts. You only get partial completion of the reaction on the parts closer to the ground or underground which further irradiates the debris that is kicked up. Its all kinds of bad news.

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[-] 474D@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

Welp, time to see if aliens really are keeping us from extinction

[-] themadcodger@kbin.earth 5 points 1 month ago

They're waiting to see if we can get past this stage on our own.

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[-] catloaf@lemm.ee 5 points 1 month ago

The headline is a reading into it a bit. They said nothing is off the table, but they are confident that a conventional strike would accomplish the goal.

Not that a strike would happen anyway, but they rarely say that any option is completely off the table. A nuclear first strike should be one of those options off the table, but it's the Trump administration we're talking about.

[-] redwattlebird@lemmings.world 4 points 1 month ago

MADness.

Hopefully someone drops him beforehand.

[-] AA5B@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

“Art of the Deal”. Always start “negotiations” with a threat to go nuclear, then brag and posture and bully. Deal

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[-] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

I'll wait for the US to demand that Israel destroy its nuclear weapons...this may take a while...

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