Credit score bad. Next.
Nah, it's good for me to know the risk before I lend to someone. Only bad borrowers are against their reputation re repayment history not being public.
Without credit scores, nepotism and bigotry are what decides who gets loans, since lenders will have nothing but 'vibes' to go off of. No thanks.
you are a good investment if you are reliable to pay back your loans at maximum interest.
That sentence is correct only if you omit the last three words. The credit reporting agencies don't even know what the interest rate is on a given loan. Also, your credit score goes up from paying a credit card off (i.e. down to a $0 balance) every month, which means you're paying literal zero interest.
taking out loans and paying them back is the most well known way of raising a credit score.
This is so much the case that many financial institutions have "credit builder loans" which are essentially a loophole for building credit, where you're given a 'fake loan' that you repay, then you're given back your payments at the end of it. Meanwhile, the credit reporting agencies see that you took out a loan and faithfully repaid it, so your credit score goes up.
One arguably unjust part about credit scores is that the actions of people related to you, or simply sharing the same surname as you, can affect it! E.G i have heard that a friend-of-a-friend’s dad took out too many loans and now their credit score suffers.
It doesn't work that way, at all. Credit scores are individual. Either that person is mistaken, or they were a co-signer on one or more of those loans (which makes them matter to their score also).
Anyway if it’s true that the actions of other people can affect your credit score
It's not, they can't.
The credit score was always a measure of how individuals took on an paid off debt in a way that the creditors wanted for maximum profits.
This is demonstrably bullshit.
Someone who maxes out a credit card, and then only pays minimum payments, and always makes them late, is, via interest accruing and late payment fees, making the lender basically the maximum amount of profit possible. And yet doing this will result in a garbage credit score, because using every penny of your credit limit is very detrimental to your credit score, and not making payments on time is extremely detrimental to your credit score.
Meanwhile, take me, someone who never pays a cent of interest, because he pays off his card every statement cycle (and on time, naturally), and because of card rewards, I’m the one profiting, the lender is literally the one paying me, and ‘yet’, my credit score is in the 800s.
So how do you reconcile that with your assumed truth quoted above? It’s very hard to understand how anyone can arrive at the conclusion you did, while also knowing (as I assume you do) that late payments simultaneously hurt your credit score and increase profit for the lender, just as one example.
There must be something else to it.
Massive understatement—it'd be more accurate to say they're completely wrong, lol.
No joke, I’ve had a car dealership tell me they can’t sell me the car I want because my credit score was nonexistent (no credit history in 7 years). I was paying in full, in cash, literally in an envelope in my hand.
The dealership wanted you to finance so that you'll pay them interest, because they make more money that way. If they completely refused, what's most likely is that the car was being sold at a price that gives them zero/negative profit margin, so without financing, they'd literally take a loss selling it for straight cash.
Credit scores are used to tell companies how much they can earn on lending you money.
This is demonstrably bullshit.
Someone who maxes out a credit card, and then only pays minimum payments, and always makes them late, is, via interest accruing and late payment fees, making the lender basically the maximum amount of profit possible. And yet doing this will result in a garbage credit score, because using every penny of your credit limit is very detrimental to your credit score, and not making payments on time is extremely detrimental to your credit score.
Meanwhile, take me, someone who never pays a cent of interest, because he pays off his card every statement cycle (and on time, naturally), and because of card rewards, I’m the one profiting, the lender is literally the one paying me, and ‘yet’, my credit score is in the 800s.
So how do you reconcile that with the assertion quoted above? It’s very hard to understand how anyone can arrive at the conclusion you did, while also knowing, at least (as I assume you do), that late payments simultaneously hurt your credit score and increase profit for the lender, just as one example.
Paying back quickly reduces the amount they can earn, lowering your credit score.
Straight-up ~~lie~~ false.
The way I understand it, to raise your credit score you need to slowly pay back your loans, so you pay back maximum interest.
You don't understand it.
No CC gets instantly closed when you pay it off. I pay my CCs off every single month.
Ridiculous, you can have a fantastic credit score just by using a credit card in place of when you'd otherwise use cash, then just pay the card off each month (which you should be able to do with no problem if you didn't borrow more than you had in cash) no later than the due date.
No interest accrued, credit score over 800. Easy.
I've never been in debt more than the money I have, and my score's over 800.
Thank you, holy shit, I get so frustrated seeing the most obviously-disproven misconceptions flying around even communities that purport to be savvy, lol.
Though one thing you didn't mention that I think always should be: re credit card, don't pay SO early that the agencies never see that you borrowed in the first place. In other words, wait until at least your statement date to pay your card (off, ideally). It's your statement balance that gets reported, so if you pay before the statement cycle ends, the agencies won't even know that the transaction(s) happened at all. Pay the card off anytime between your statement hitting, and your due date, and you're golden, credit score improves, and you accrue no interest.
That's better, lol