This is a defensive system, of course it is useful during war time but it is still a defensive system.

And there you go again, funding zionism.

While pretending Omar and the entire DSA misunderstood what this was about, but you do.

the MOU is about a yearly aid package, that MTG (who I hate) wanted to add an amendment to cut.

Thats a no brainer choice. Unless AOC or someone can show me a poison pill in that ammendment, its straightforward and simple to pick the only ethical and progressive vote.
And AOC failed to pick it for some reason. It wasnt complicated.

Omar made the right choice and called out AOC for failing to. And rightly so. DSA called AOC out as well. This is simple math. Lets do the simple math and stop pretending its calculus.

Do we all want to be funding weapons for Israel or do we not? That was the choice.

Are you claiming Omar and the DSA are just.. wrong? to call out AOC? https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/msnbc-opinion/aoc-israel-ilhan-omar-iron-dome-rcna220394

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/11/us/politics/aoc-dsa-endorsement.html

Her distinction between offensive and defensive weapons is meaningless.

1. its morally and ethically wrong to aid Israel in light of their actions.
2. The US has no obligation to send them any weapons, regardless of the use case. Her trying to parse out defensive vs offensive is a manipulation and a shallow sales job.
3. US gov employees are explicitly forbidden by US law from lending any aid whatsoever to any country committed war crimes.
4. The cost of supporting Israel is the unravelling of the entire western world order. Its not just the US. And for what, some pitiful bribes? Israel is spending the very concept of democracy so they can do a land grab and feel badass about killing some helpless people. And AOC wants to help.. for some campaign donations, I assume? Or is it just to keep the powerful zionist lobby off her back.. what was her price for her betraying what used to be her principles? And now that she has done it and DSA has booted her, what role does she even play anymore?

She voted against reduced funding for weapons for Israel because she would have been voting FOR funds for weapons for Israel.

Thats not what I read about what she claimed were her motivations. She said she voted against it because she was in favor of giving them defensive weapons, but not offensive ones. As if the money to buy weapons wasnt easily moved from one to the other. Weapons are weapons.

AOC is trying to whip up funds for when she runs next election. I'm not too thrilled that she voted against cutting funds for Israel weapons. What was she thinking. So dumb, and felt like a betrayal. And in the time since as many of her allies urged her to own up to what she did to get her support back, she chose not to. So something is keeping her quiet. Usually in the US politics thats money. I'd be curious if anyone else has other theories. I really liked her as a presidential candidate, before this.

All they had to do was wait until the boat entered Israeli waters to do it legally. Why do it in international waters? Israelis seem to want to break laws just for the sake of showing they dont consider any laws to matter. In some ways they are worse than nazis. They are like perpetually angry butthurt toddlers with weapons.

“We don’t have to show you anything,” one agent reportedly shot back when asked for ID or a warrant.

Actually, yea. You do. Or its just assault and kidnapping. Official paperwork is not privileged or secret. That idiot should be fired along with his chain of command.

And of course, Israel will deny they did it for a while, until later when they admit it and dance about it.

The good news is we have these assaults on tape, so I'm sure there will be a robust investigation and the attackers will be held to justice. Right?

these contrived reports of him quitting politics or being depressed to try to get some sympathy and stop the stock selling are pathetic. He's never cared about anyone else, even his own children, and he still absolutely does not. He's a spoiled psycopath who thinks he can manipulate people.

Being "proud" of your acheivements is fine.

Being "proud" of your country or your state or your football team that you're not a member of,or your ethnicity is douchebaggery.