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[-] Tartas1995@discuss.tchncs.de -1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

It is kinda funny how people understand that hyperbolic and scandalous language grabs our attention, their attention gets grabbed by hyperbolic and scandalous language and then they laughing at those who used that language. You got played. They aren't wrong as much as you didn't understand what they are doing. An investor is rewarded for having the correct opinion but only if everyone else is wrong. They are professional liars. So they get money because they misled the public and they get money for the attention that they generated. They cashed in twice.

Personally, I do think china will face great economical challenges in the near future though. E.g. The collapse of evergrande and the consequences on the whole sector will make some waves. Let's hope the public won't suffer.

Before anyone wants to jump at me for shitting on china and praising the west (I did neither), I think e.g. america is a dumpster fire economically speaking and the eu is struggling at best.


If anyone is interested to share with me their opinion on a (in my opinion, a very probable) collapse of Tesla will impact the EV market, especially the Chinese market, please do!

[-] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 0 points 6 days ago

China has a demographics that will severely kick it in its balls very soon, and that is probably an understatement.

[-] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 60 points 1 week ago

An evil authoritarian regime that is committing human rights abuses and does not follow democratic norms ..... but we'll do billions of dollars worth of trade with them and base a lot of our industries around trading with them. But they're still evil.

[-] SippyCup@feddit.nl 65 points 1 week ago

Are you talking about China or the US?

[-] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 65 points 1 week ago
[-] yucandu@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Yeah that tracks, same with Saudi Arabia and Israel.

Being aware of America's abuses of power is good. Being contrarian and acting like everything they've ever said about China is a lie is bad.

[-] umbrella@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 week ago

most of what they say about it is a lie though.

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[-] Commiunism@beehaw.org 34 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Love how the exact same thing is now being said about the US lmao (the collapse part at least), I LOVE the media machine

[-] umbrella@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 week ago

hahahaha this one is hilarious

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[-] aBundleOfFerrets@sh.itjust.works 26 points 1 week ago

“Imminent collapse” is a fairly common theme among modern economies

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 week ago

a common theme song among capitalist economies

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[-] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago

This was a couple of years ago but I think the numbers are still the same: sending a shipping container from Hong Kong to Newark cost about $3000 while sending the same container in the opposite direction cost about $500. This is because we badly want the shit China makes while they don't want anything we make (the same situation that led Great Britain to force China to accept opium at gunpoint almost two hundred years ago). Sending a container to China is so cheap that for a stretch we were actually filling them with our garbage because it was less expensive to dispose of it there.

Anyone who think this represents economic weakness on China's part is batshit crazy.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

This is because we badly want the shit China makes while they don’t want anything we make

That's not entirely true. China produces a lot of low-margin industrial goods that Americans then assemble into finished products. Americans produce an assortment of agricultural and mineral goods that are in high demand in China (oilseeds and grains, particularly soybeans, followed by mineral fuels and oil). We also produce a number of high-margin technology components (include aircraft and parts, electrical machinery and TV parts, and nuclear reactor parts and mechanical appliances) that are expensive but comparatively smaller by volume than the products China sends our way.

Think of it this way. If China sends us a pound of feathers and we send them a pound of iron, even if they're the same price one of them is going to fill up a shipping container a lot faster than the other. The end result is a net positive number of shipping containers coming into the US.

Anyone who think this represents economic weakness on China’s part is batshit crazy.

It's a generally symbiotic relationship and one that any neoliberal economist would laud. We've stratified our industrial economies such that we're highly specialized in respective fields. It isn't weakness on either side's part any more than the heart is stronger/weaker than the lungs because one beats faster than the other breaths.

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[-] softcat@lemmy.ca 20 points 1 week ago

Open up for trade! Wait no you're not supposed to benefit, only us!

[-] daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 1 week ago

China will be the best country in the world the same day fusion reactors will be available. Always in ten years. No matter when you read this.

[-] phoenixz@lemmy.ca -3 points 6 days ago

Ten years from now, China will be in freefall down. Demographics.

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[-] usualsuspect191@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 week ago

It is economy

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