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On Sunday, U.S. President Donald Trump announced the possibility that, once the tariffs take effect, there could be a reduction or elimination of income taxes for individuals earning less than US$200,000 a year.

“When the tariffs cut in, many people’s income taxes will be substantially reduced, maybe even eliminated entirely. Focus will be on those earning less than $200,000 a year,” the Republican president wrote today on his social media platform, Truth Social.

“Also, massive numbers of jobs are already being created, with new plants and factories currently being built or planned,” he added.

“It will be a bonanza for America!!! The External Revenue Service is happening!!!” the U.S. President concluded.

This week, a coalition of twelve states, led by the attorneys general of Oregon and Arizona, filed a lawsuit seeking to block the tariffs imposed by Trump, arguing that the tariffs are “illegal.”

The lawsuit aims to block the imposition of a 145% tariff on most products from China and a 25% tariff on most products from Canada and Mexico, important trading partners of the plaintiff states.

It also challenges the 10% tariffs on most products imported from the rest of the world, as well as the Trump’s plan to raise tariffs on imports from an additional 46 trading partners starting on July 9.

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[-] chungusamonugs@hexbear.net 91 points 2 days ago

football-lucy It should be illegal to publish anything trump says with any level of sincerity.

[-] HelluvaBottomCarter@hexbear.net 79 points 2 days ago
[-] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 34 points 2 days ago

If I knew how to make emojis I'd include this one.

[-] CptKrkIsClmbngThMntn@hexbear.net 30 points 2 days ago

You have to follow through now and add it.

[-] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 18 points 2 days ago

catgirl-smug

If I knew how to add emojis to the list I'd include this one.I'll try to add it when I get home, failing that I'll bug our emoji experts to teach me how to do it, failing that I'll just beg our emoji experts to add it while calling me a blockhead.

[-] WhyEssEff@hexbear.net 10 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I can add it when I get to my computer

[-] miz@hexbear.net 11 points 2 days ago

you can just post it to c/emoji and hope WhyEssEff gets to it

[-] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 13 points 2 days ago

Oooor I can roll the dice on whether or not I break the site by trying to do jt myself crush

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[-] dead@hexbear.net 58 points 2 days ago

This is not the first time he has said this. He was saying this since before he was elected if I recall correctly.

His plan is not getting rid of taxes. His plan is shifting taxes from income tax to sales taxes (tariffs). His plan is to further shift the tax burden onto working people. Corporation owners will offload their tax burden by including the cost of the sales taxes into the cost of the product. It will be even more difficult to tax capitalists.

This could lead to complete government collapse.

Income tax is not a bad thing. You should be getting services in return for the taxes that you pay.

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[-] iamjackflack@lemm.ee 59 points 2 days ago

Don’t worry you will get a tax break, but like normal everything else will skyrocket to get that saved money and more into corporate and healthcare ceo hands like always.

[-] Xenomorph@hexbear.net 37 points 2 days ago

I thought we were supposed to get a 5k check in the mail from Elon gutting all those agencies?

[-] Pastaguini@hexbear.net 29 points 2 days ago

Out of curiosity, I went to the main Trump forum to see how they’re talking about this. Here’s what they’re saying:

[-] TrustedFeline@hexbear.net 29 points 2 days ago

That there is a sovereign citizen. Or they just adapted sovcit language. I think they've learned not to bring up maritime law right away

[-] LeZero@hexbear.net 6 points 1 day ago

The "False legal identity" is a big giveaway to me

"Legal but unlawful" is pretty funny too

[-] pierre_delecto@hexbear.net 23 points 2 days ago

Yessss I haven’t seen one of these cranks in awhile

[-] HelluvaBottomCarter@hexbear.net 13 points 2 days ago

Income Tax is actually an unconstitutional bill of attainder rendered by the false government controlled by the British Admiralty.

(Sov citizens are one of the funniest forms of false class consciousness)

[-] Gerudo@lemm.ee 21 points 2 days ago

Once the tariffs take effect....

He already said we are making billions in tariffs...so which is it?

[-] Acute_Engles@hexbear.net 29 points 2 days ago

My perception is that Americans hardly pay any tax as it is tbh

[-] invalidusernamelol@hexbear.net 49 points 2 days ago

I pay about 1/3 of my paycheck in taxes every 2 weeks. Then another 1/3 for rent and the last 1/3 is groceries.

[-] Acute_Engles@hexbear.net 20 points 2 days ago

Ok so about the same as up here. Glad to have my perspective corrected.

I know there are specific states that have less tax, though, right?

[-] spectre@hexbear.net 41 points 2 days ago

It's not really true unless you are wealthy enough to have an accountant shuffle your money around for you. Most states end up around the same amount once all is said and done cause that's how much it costs to run a state.

[-] Acute_Engles@hexbear.net 14 points 2 days ago

Makes sense. Well then fuck, sucks all over doesn't it?

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[-] Sulv@hexbear.net 21 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Yes, we pay federal income tax and state income tax. Some states have variable income based rates, some are flat. Iirc there’s some state (North Dakota maybe) that has zero state income tax for lower income people.

Don’t get me started on how sales tax disproportionately affects lower income people.

[-] NewOldGuard@hexbear.net 20 points 2 days ago

Ik Florida has no state income tax. As a result you get shit public services and also you’re stuck living in Florida lol

[-] Acute_Engles@hexbear.net 23 points 2 days ago

As a result you get shit public services

The other states with taxes have good public services, right? anakin-padme-2

[-] Frogmanfromlake@hexbear.net 19 points 2 days ago

Not great compared to other developed countries but noticeably better. New York State has more resources for neurodivergent people than Florida and I believe their SNAP benefits give out more as well.

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[-] invalidusernamelol@hexbear.net 18 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Yeah, State income tax is reduced in some places. My federal taxes are ~$250/wk while state taxes are ~$50/wk. That's middle of the road for state tax. I know California and NY charge a lot more, but they also get a lot of that with higher property taxes. Which I wouldn't have to pay because I don't own property.

Also it's not technically a tax, but health insurance is another $100/wk for a plan that requires me to spend $8000 out of pocket before they even consider paying for anything. If I don't take that employer offered health insurance, I have to pay an additional tax penalty at the end of the year that goes to the health insurance companies, so it's kinda a tax.

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[-] Xiisadaddy@lemmygrad.ml 28 points 2 days ago

Rich people basically pay 0 taxes in America, people that work a job do pay taxes they just dont get anything for it. lol

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[-] miz@hexbear.net 28 points 2 days ago

remember when he was going to get rid of the tax on tips?

[-] Wertheimer@hexbear.net 20 points 2 days ago

lathe-of-heaven The chuds will believe that this has already happened, and will phone in ICE raids on any restaurant worker who claims it hasn't

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[-] BoxedFenders@hexbear.net 24 points 2 days ago

Genius PR move. He gets to look the part of the populist to his base and conveniently deflects blame to his opponents when it inevitably fails to pass.

[-] Sulv@hexbear.net 23 points 2 days ago

I’ll believe it when I see it

[-] trinicorn@hexbear.net 14 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

"possibility". uh huh. sure.

but as a thought experiment, if he did somehow eliminate federal income tax for that many people (and presumably financed it by some combination of printing money, shutting down major federal programs like medicaid, etc)... Would he just be god emperor for life in the minds of like 70% of americans? I guess the high would wear off pretty quick and its not a trick you can pull twice, but idk, it feels like it might win some people over. maybe enough to overcome the "but the constitution" pleas of the libs (not that it takes much he's already almost there)

of course if he did it by making everything cost double which seems to be what he's proposing then I feel like people wouldn't react positively besides the usual rubes

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