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[-] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 166 points 1 week ago

yea, "unpopular" because we're all indoctrinated from preschool onward that it's "natural" to be yanked out of sleep by an alarm, bust our asses to show up at work, move on to things at the sound of a bell for all the daylight hours, then get minimal, if any, sleep in order to do it all over again tomorrow. god forbid you get an opportunity for a nap in the middle of the day

thank the industrial revolution: slavery dressed up in "freedom and opportunity" -- same as the other familiar phrase "arbeit macht frei"

you exist to generate value for your owners. that's it.

[-] Madzielle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 66 points 1 week ago

I worked 55+ hours a week for years. During the pandemic I became a stay at home mom. I suddenly, never sped while driving and any road rage tendencies vanished, nearly overnight.

While I feel quite isolated and lonely sometimes, as everyone I know works and are busy all the time, I can't stress enough how much of a change my driving habits went through when I was no longer in "workmode".

I used to break an average of 3 traffic laws every morning getting to my 6am shift. Then, the rush to just.get.home.

To a point now, I don't like driving during rush hours, or shopping after the work crews get off. 10am on a weekday at the grocery store? Everyone is pleasant and polite."excuse me" I say, and we have a polite interchange. I'll give a compliment to a womans dress, and I've passed some good on to a fellow human, sometimes I even receive compliments from the little old ladies, I've learned from them after all.

If I go to the shop after 4pm or on a weekend? I can feel folks souls have been ripped out and stomped on, knowing what they feel.. I say excuse me as i have to scoot pass their cart, and I don't even get a response just a glare. Then I return home sad.

[-] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 21 points 1 week ago

Work/life balance is crucial. Ideally, everyone should be guaranteed a healthy work/life balance, while still being able to live comfortably. With one job.

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[-] nimble@lemmy.blahaj.zone 98 points 1 week ago

It's only unpopular for the 1% extracting wealth from the 99%

[-] djsoren19@lemmy.blahaj.zone 77 points 1 week ago

I think about this a lot. We have essentially, purely through accident tbh, created a society that we are evolutionary unprepared to live in. So much of our typical day to day is actually horrible for our bodies and often antithetical to their good function.

In a strange way, it's almost incredible. We have invented a rock that we cannot lift.

[-] FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world 37 points 1 week ago

Eh, agreed except it’s no accident. A small group of people have managed to convince everyone else to do all the lifting in exchange for crumbs and little green pieces of paper. We have allowed ourselves to become our own worst enemy rather than unite and explore the stars

[-] The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world 26 points 1 week ago

Competition is good for a lot of things, but it also becomes a day-to-day race to the bottom that rewards whoever is willing to sacrifice more of their life for the sake of their job than others.

The logical consequence is exactly this: we back ourselves into an increasingly uncomfortable corner that leaves less room for living than we could easily enjoy with our current technology.

[-] gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 week ago

Competition is essential in almost all (if not just all) human interaction, as its what pushes us to better ourselves and our species. healthy competition has rules in place that all parties know, and if someone is hurt or confused the competition is stopped to assess and adjust if needed, like sports n shit. We forgot to add that to the economy, whoops

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[-] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

B-b-b-b greed is human nature!

Yeah, go check out how any society outside of Europe worked before colonization. Winner writes the history!

The colonists were able to easily defeat most of the natives by out-arming them. But does anybody ever stop to think about why none of these societies ever invented guns? 🤔

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[-] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 50 points 1 week ago

Yeah this is one of the reasons labor needs to organize.

There's one boss telling 500 workers that they all need to work themselves to death? Fuck that. We outnumber him. We could be productive without burnout and things could be fine.

[-] Schal330@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Unfortunately there is a pyramid scheme in place filled with fools that think they can become that one and are willing to fight against those "beneath" them.

[-] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 7 points 1 week ago

True. There are also many idiots who think like, "I work hard and when I take a break it's well deserved. When they take a break, they're lazy good-for-nothings".

There's a name for this I can't remember right now. Something more specific than "stupid" or "no empathy".

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[-] ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net 11 points 1 week ago

For anyone else reading this: you could be the one to make that change, and gain you and your coworkers better pay and time off.

Seriously consider joining the IWW. They'll train you on how to organize your coworkers and form a grassroots union, no matter what your job is.

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[-] Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 47 points 1 week ago

I'm so tired of working. I just want to live modestly in a bought off house but the ever inflating cost of living will make it an impossible dream.

[-] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago

I retired from my software developer job right before COVID hit, bought a very small (and very inexpensive) fixer-upper house for cash, and started driving a school bus. I make like 1/5 as much as I used to and I'm as happy as I've ever been in my life. I work less than five hours a day and I have a big break between my morning and afternoon runs so I can ride my bike, have a leisurely lunch and a nice nap in the middle of my day. If the school board would just take my suggestion to send all the middle-schoolers to the Antarctic for three years, my life would be perfect.

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[-] punksnotdead@slrpnk.net 6 points 1 week ago

Nancy Birtwhistle has some great books that can help a bit with the cost of living. They include recipes for your own cleaning products and toiletries. It's only a few £s here and there but they start to add up into some real savings, plus you get the benefit of knowing exactly what's in your products, peace of mind from potential health effects, as it's all vinegars, citric acids, and alcohols instead of (to the layman) mystery chemicals.

And to save even more money they are available on the high seas, although she's put considerable care and attention into them so I've purchased the real things. But for getting started, they are available is all I'm saying.

Obviously that doesn't help with buying a house or anything as they're crazy prices everywhere but it'll save you on your shopping bills each week at least.

[-] BackgrndNoize@lemmy.world 39 points 1 week ago

There is no reason why taxes pooled together from all of our incomes cannot be used to subsidize Healthcare, education and a basic living income for all citizens. But if everone no longer had to worry about survival, no one would put up with corporate abuse from rich cunts and plus if they'd paid their fair share of taxes and couldn't just steal tax money to gamble with, they'd never be as filthy rich as they are to begin with.

[-] KimjongTOOILL@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

Imagine not working and still being able to survive.

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[-] TomMasz@lemmy.world 39 points 1 week ago

Humans used to have a much more direct connection between what they did and their survival. Gather enough food and you won't starve. Keep an eye out for other tribes/clans/families competing for the same resources and you don't get killed. Processing TPS reports all day doesn't seem like it does much of anything even though it gives you money. We've lost the connection and our brains can't handle it.

[-] boreengreen@lemm.ee 27 points 1 week ago

So modern life is simulating an impending death scenario for the brain. All the time.

[-] Poem_for_your_sprog@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago

That actually makes a lot of sense. Like the panic that occurs when layoffs happen.

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[-] Doctor_Satan@lemm.ee 33 points 1 week ago

It's not that we're too busy. It's that we're too busy without purpose. What's the point of being busy when it doesn't proportionately translate to having our needs met?

We have more abundance than ever before in all of human history, and yet we work harder than hunter-gatherers just to feed ourselves, and we have less leisure time than they did. We work more hours per day and have fewer days off per year than medieval serfs. And for what? What's the purpose? So some asshole who was born on third base can buy another mansion?

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[-] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 26 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

It's extremely unpopular in the American business world. This world is so fucked up on so many levels. People wonder how things can be so bad over here... This is a big piece of that puzzle, along with our terrible and underfunded education system, and our lack of affordable healthcare.

Just these three things are bad enough, but then there are so, so many more problems. The United States is a gilded dumpster fire we've somehow been convincing the world is a beacon of prosperity.

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[-] MudMan@fedia.io 24 points 1 week ago

Humans weren't "meant" for anything. Your particular sub-brand of cell clumps just failed to go extinct fast enough, so now here you are.

[-] aburrito@sh.itjust.works 34 points 1 week ago

I think you’re agreeing with the premise without realizing it. We weren’t meant to have the norms and expectations that society places on us to just survive. We’re not expected to just retain homeostasis and survival, part of that has been predicated on your “personal productivity” towards the systems that we live under. Access to community and group resources is something we’re made to seek out, but it’s been blocked behind paywalls and monetary requirements effectively.

[-] 0x0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 week ago

Humans weren't "meant" for anything.

Hi, it's me, the creator. Your purpose is to create entertaining content, but your output has been slipping lately. You live in a simulation created by my multiversal corporation, which didn't meet growth expectations this cycle, so we'll be making some cuts to your simulation's fidelity — just a few fingers and toes for now. Try refocusing your civilization on pumping out Boss Baby movies (they're very popular here!) and we can talk again in 172 of your years.

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[-] Doc_Crankenstein@slrpnk.net 21 points 1 week ago

Kinda sorta.

It is more that the things we are busy doing are not fulfilling. Half of everything we do is because we are forced to do it to survive.

Contrary to popular belief, people actually like to do things and to keep busy/be productive... when we have control over what those things are

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[-] Albbi@lemmy.ca 18 points 1 week ago

This would be terribly unpopular on LinkedIn.

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[-] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago

Look at any other mammals our size.

Specifically other primates and great apes.

They lounge in heards and eat plants.

[-] Tartas1995@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 1 week ago

Some of them fart 100s litres every single day. Fucking legends.

[-] gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 week ago

Once saw a gorilla shit a log as big as my head and then fling it ~30ft into a window that a family was viewing it from

Absolute legends

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[-] MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz 15 points 1 week ago
[-] Madzielle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I've only gotten one minute into the video and already it's hit me with truth.

I'm a sahm, used to work in manufacturing. I enjoy keeping house, ..mostly. The beginning of the video it's stated in the stone age, people would usually have one day of heavy work, followed by a day of less work.

When I'm left to my own devices on planning and keeping house, this is exactly how my days go. I clean like hell for one day or do an outdoor project, and the next, I just do the bare minimum, maybe a load of dishes and a meal that requires more effort, but nothing else. I thought it was just part of my neurodivergencies. But I really do enjoy working in this manner. I actually get to enjoy the fruits of my labor for a minute.

Maybe thats what humans are missing, basking in a job well done is important to keep us motivated imo

[-] Xenny@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

The "neurodivergent" are just people who don't vibe with capitalism btw

[-] the_q@lemm.ee 13 points 1 week ago

I think this is accurate. We may be the most "intelligent" animal on this planet, but we're still animals. We've been pulled out of a natural order and forced into systems the worst of us came up with to keep said worst ones happy. At the exact same time we also have the capacity and potential to make this planet a habitable, utopia for all creatures, but those systems, man...

[-] ungsund@lemm.ee 6 points 1 week ago

Yeah, I feel this. We’ve been forced into a system that treat life like a nonstop grind instead of something we’re meant to actually live. Real connection got replaced by control. It’s crazy how unnatural all this ‘normal’ really is.

[-] raltoid@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Some people basically hibernated in the past. Slept for most of the day in winter to conserve energy(ignore the part where they slept a lot because they were hungry, we have food).

Modern "work ethics" is a scam.

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[-] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 week ago

For many of us not working full time could mean the death or ruin of us and our family. That degree of anxiety allows for abuse in the work hierarchy, and I think this is at a minimum something we need to work to improve for everyones sake. Regardless of your work effort do you want to be around people scurrying around for no other reason than that they fear death or crippling debt? It doesn't bring out anyone's best.

[-] GooberEar@lemmy.wtf 10 points 1 week ago

I'm currently unemployed, and I was not expecting to be so busy. I thought I would have a little more leisure time, might be able to catch up on a few things that I never seemed to have time for, like catching up with family, playing some video games in my back log, and doing a small bit of travel. That hasn't materialized. It's like as soon as I stopped "working", more things came up that needed my attention. I'm basically busy from the time I get up in the morning until I wrap up for the night and veg out in front of the TV for an hour before bed. I swear I had more me time when I was working. Not sure how this happened.

[-] MDCCCLV@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 week ago

This is common, it's because there was a huge backlog of things you just never got around to doing because you didn't have enough time. When you're working you prioritize some relaxing time because you have to go back to work soon. Now you have to do all the tasks you've stored up.

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[-] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

I don't think it's the level of busy - for most of human history mere survival took a lot more time than it would take us today if we worked directly on actual survival. The problem is that we do the survival by working on too much irrelevant shit that enriches other people, who keep making our share less and less.

[-] MutilationWave@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 week ago

From historical anthropology and studying modern hunter gatherer groups, I believe the current consensus is that these people work or worked between 20-30 hours a week. Please correct me if there is more recent information.

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[-] blindbunny@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 week ago
[-] lobut@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 week ago

Yeah there's something to that. Like I feel as though we should always be doing stuff but not what it is that we're currently doing?

Like, we should be waking up and having tea with our neighbors or helping out in our communities and stuff .. perhaps just building, planting, fixing things that we'd like? I don't feel as though we should be fighting deadlines constantly.

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[-] Damage@feddit.it 7 points 1 week ago

As long as groups of people (states?) are locked in deadly competition, there can be no slowdown, anyone who does gets conquered or obliterated.

[-] UltraMagnus0001@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

Especially in USA

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