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[-] MelodiousFunk@slrpnk.net 25 points 2 months ago

I love how it seems that the entirety of the US refers to it as "lockdown," despite most retailers being open for business, Karen bringing all 6 kids with her to Walmart, Kyle assaulting anyone who even looks like they suggest that he wear a mask, and legions of "essential workers" being treated like shit on all sides. Sure, "lockdown."

[-] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 19 points 2 months ago

There was actually a lot of good news during that time. How quickly nature recovers when humans just collectively stop milling about for a while. Did we learn a lesson from that? I fear not. The economy needs to roll on!

[-] NoForwardslashS@sopuli.xyz 9 points 2 months ago

We learned it is much harder to keep tabs on workers when we can't physically see them and that is much more important than productivity.

[-] admin@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 months ago

Also that commercial real estate is more important than residential estate.

[-] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

This should have been obvious since everything else about business is more important than the general public. You can commit mass murder as long as it is for profits, and if you commit fraud as a company policy then nobody goes to jail.

[-] admin@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 months ago

As far as I've noticed for as long as I've been alive, a corporation can get away with things such as:

  • harm their costumers
  • kill their employees
  • tax evasion
  • commit fraud
  • bribery (lobbying)

And that is just from ths tip of my tongue, but for some reason laundering money is a big no no. I think only the alphabet bodies can get away with that.

[-] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 14 points 2 months ago

How it looks on a typical day

[-] Croquette@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 months ago
[-] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 months ago

Blade Runner

[-] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

It's Humans, hi, we're the problem, it's us.

[-] GissaMittJobb@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 months ago

In the case of LA specifically, it's the cars. That's what's changed in this picture - no cars on the road commuting to work.

[-] kokesh@lemmy.world -4 points 2 months ago

People driving cars, making cars. We are overpopulated. When lemmings or any other animal gets overpopulated, they get some disease and numbers get lower. When we get that, we overcome the obstacle and the population doesn't get significantly reduced. That is why we keep fucking up the planet. Nothing to stop us, except ourselves. And if that happens, we take all other life with us.

[-] kameecoding@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

The Climate Deniers Playbook podcast, Episode: There's just too many people, a nice episode debunking this myth that there are too many people

https://open.spotify.com/episode/3XsAW5AkFTGYBvM2vuoNLp

https://podcasts.apple.com/sk/podcast/the-climate-deniers-playbook/id1694759084?i=1000662501122

[-] stopdropandprole@lemmy.world -1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

(I'm not saying this is my personal opinion so don't roast me plz):

it's not that there are too many people.

it's that there are too many people living under a regime that compels them to wantonly consume, pollute, and generally destroy the ecosystem in favor of the sole benefit of a miniscule number of oligarchs

in other words, the planet has the carrying capacity to sustain all of us theoretically, but not practically as things are today, at least not if humans continue living according to capitalist hyper consumptive individualism.

so yeah, there are too many people - unless we effectively reprogram all of modern culture to embrace a sustainable and pro environmental ethics... which you and I know, isn't going to happen.

QED: too many people.

note: this is different from the other commenters take because it's not making claims about human nature as being inherently bad. it's just claiming that the system/culture people are born into is bad and does in fact impose artificial limitations on the capacity of the planet to support diverse ecosystems

[-] kameecoding@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

Only americans consume too much, thats 4 % of the population, you should really listen to the podcast episode

[-] stopdropandprole@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

appreciate the rec, I've been a patreon to Climate Town for years and already listened to that episode of CDH...

my point still stands. "too much" is a spectrum, my opinion likely differs significantly from most people, including Rollie's. i lean towards the Daniel Quinn side of environmental ethics, which definitely places more than just fat over consuming Americans in the category of unsustainable cultures.

[-] kameecoding@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Well then the good news for you is that lots of wealthy "western" countries are starting to decline in population and will actually need immigration to keep up numbers. There is the pretty nice Kurzgesagt video about how South Korea is basically done.

[-] grue@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

Your comment is just apologia for failing to promote good urbanism. Overpopulation or not, there is no excuse for sprawl.

[-] GissaMittJobb@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 months ago

This is an incredibly cringe take and I wish you'd never type it out again.

[-] 1984@lemmy.today 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I dont know why you say we in this context. Almost none of us have any control over the decisions of "the world". Its run by billionaires with their paid off politicians, corporate lawyers, judges...

Russia is very corrupt, China as well, USA is getting there...

The problem is not overpopulation, its that humans have no power. What if we wanted to stop spending money on warfare one day and focus all that money on building more high tech buildings, lowering prices of housing, increasing wages,....you know, positive things for humans and prioritize happiness for everyone.

Sounds like a dream right? Because you cant do that, you have no power. Thats the problem, not overpopulation. That can easily be fixed with money and visions, expanding public transport, investing in high tech trains etc etc.

Currently it feels like the only way the world would be able to work together for the good of humanity would be if there was a big asteroid coming, and everyone needed to work together for once, putting our little stupid differences aside. We could do that, but leaders are children and very low on empathy or interests in making life better for strangers.

[-] starlinguk@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Fun fact: a large part of Berlin (3.4 million inhabitants) has no light pollution and you also don't have a yellow fug covering the city. Guess why.

[-] Kolanaki@pawb.social 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Not in LA, but at the time I was just a few miles from I-5 and the noise travelled pretty far. The first month or two of lockdowns, it was super quiet with barely anyone on the highway.

[-] altphoto@lemmy.today 3 points 2 months ago

In Kenmore WA, you could hear a pin drop. The birds sang and you could hear your self think. It was weirdly quiet.

[-] sirico@feddit.uk 3 points 2 months ago

Everyone at the time "we should really try and keep this...right I'm off to the corner shop in my f250"

[-] Eyekaytee@aussie.zone 2 points 2 months ago

Is it not normally like this? Need a comparison to a typical day

[-] _chris@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

It's looked like this pretty much every day since the clean air acts of the late 80s.

This picture specifically is the morning after a rainstorm. That always cleans it up a bit more.

LA is not anywhere near as bad as the movies make it out to be. It was that had, though, before emissions regulations.

[-] MeekerThanBeaker@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

There were blue skies in L.A. before the pandemic and after. Not everyday, but they existed.

[-] NoForwardslashS@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 months ago

I assumed LA was always deeply yellow tinted, like it is in all media set in the city.

[-] Elgenzay@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 months ago

That's Mexico

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