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NOTE: This thread concerns the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement; not internal combustion engines.

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[-] LordGimp@lemm.ee 1 points 2 minutes ago

Water balloons + black oil paint + used motor oil + a handful of course sand = absolute hell on car paint, polycarbonate panes (think security helmet visors or those see through riot shields), and anything with feet that likes to walk around.

[-] zbyte64@awful.systems 3 points 33 minutes ago

Is this why modern caltrops ended up on my YouTube FYP?

[-] DicJacobus@lemmy.world 20 points 3 hours ago

Sugar in a gas tank is not nearly as damaging as just pouring water in it.

[-] NOPper@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 8 minutes ago

Doesn't it just clog up the fuel filter because it won't dissolve in gasoline?

[-] SoleInvictus@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 5 minutes ago

Bingo, and it takes a lot to clog the filter. Plain water is more of a nuisance.

[-] SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml 17 points 4 hours ago

Law nerds: can ironical intent be proven in court?

[-] TwoBeeSan@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

1000% stealing "ironic intent" lmfao

[-] Kowowow@lemmy.ca 13 points 2 hours ago

Think the fbi has officially recognized the term "in minecraft" as possible real intent

[-] Zwiebel@feddit.org 15 points 3 hours ago

Serious answer: The US gov is past using courts or caring what the laws says

[-] Omega_Man@lemmy.world 7 points 4 hours ago

I find it interesting that these posts are dated 2019. I don't remember this being an issue pre-covid.

[-] zbyte64@awful.systems 1 points 36 minutes ago

I remember family separations was a big deal during his first term. And then there was that US citizen teen who was imprisoned by ICE in Texas....

[-] burgerpocalyse@lemmy.world 4 points 1 hour ago

Well I mean the department of homeland security was established like one minute after 9/11 happened and thats who is in charge of Immigration and Customs Enforcement, so they've been fucking around in the rights of US citizens and noncitizens since then

[-] the_riviera_kid@lemmy.world 42 points 6 hours ago

Sugar in the gas tank will not ruin the engine, the most it will do is maybe clog the fuel filter.

Bleach on the other hand is an Oxidizer, it will cause certain metals to rust extremely fast....

[-] tourist@lemmy.world 7 points 3 hours ago

This still assumes access to the fuel tank

We can work backwards and double down on this problem by making sure it remains inaccessible for as long as possible.

Ideally, you would want to weld the fuel hole shut, but that may be impractical. Depositing a cartoonish amount of very strong glue into the fuel cap cover can be a more realistic compromise.

Attempts to regain access may leave the fuel tank vulnerable where it can then be double tapped with bleach.

or just use a flathead screwdriver idk im high

[-] Kowowow@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

What about that absorbent gel made to clean up tanker truck spills I think I've seen some sold to make toilet replacement easier

[-] skulblaka@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 minutes ago* (last edited 3 minutes ago)

I've never considered what a shitload of silica gel would do inside a gas tank.... It can't be anything good, but I doubt it would get past the fuel filter. The vehicle probably won't run but the fix isn't super difficult, just a new fuel tank + pump and you're good to go.

Pouring it into the oil intake would have much more interesting results but you aren't getting in there unless a) you have cab access to pop the hood latch, or b) you're willing and able to destroy so much of the vehicle to access that that whatever you do afterward starts to not even matter.

[-] magic_smoke@lemmy.blahaj.zone 50 points 7 hours ago

Am I crazy or does everyone in the comments not realize they're talking about ICE the federal agency?

[-] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 4 points 4 hours ago

ICE is jerks.

[-] hellfire103@lemmy.ca 24 points 7 hours ago

You're as sane is I was in 2019. Looks like 196 has more gearheads than Americans.

[-] superkret@feddit.org 7 points 6 hours ago

I though we were talking about German express trains.

[-] FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world 4 points 4 hours ago

Doesn’t have to be a big hole in the sidewall, you can’t put a plug in it no matter the size so a needle can render a tire FUBAR

[-] entwine413@lemm.ee 12 points 6 hours ago

Put a BB in the valve stem cap. It's non-destructive, but will still result in a flat tire. If you super glue the BB, they might end up with several flats before they realize.

[-] badbrainstorm@lemmy.world 1 points 46 minutes ago

I had a tool in highschool that took the valve out of the stem I borrowed from my dads mechanic shop that I put to good use. If there's a hell I'm probably headed there

[-] SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 5 hours ago

In the CAP, you say?

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[-] Ekybio@lemmy.world 15 points 7 hours ago

What would exactly happen if one woule pour sugar in the gas tank? Like on a chemical and mechanical level?

First time hearing about this

[-] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

Well then you would uh... ice ICE's ICE.

bad dum tish!

Not really though, basically, it clogs up the fuel pump/filter.

Not likely to... immediately or quickly immobilize the vehicle... but it would increase maintenance costs, and decrease fuel efficiency and reliability.

...

If you wanna go for something uh... faster acting, more immediate and more serious:

A whole lot of water.

That'll make the engine choke and sputter and stall if you use enough.

So... use ice to ice ICE's ICE?

Uh... in minecraft?

...

Sand will also clog up the filter, and cause more damage inside the actual engine if any gets through the filter.

... A whole bunch of polystyrene packing peanuts would ... also be 'fun', rofl.

The way they chemically interact with gasoline... basically gellifies the gasonline, turning it into shitty, syrupy napalm.

I am guessing a very gooopy gasoline is... not going to help a car run well, please actually do not test this rofl.

I am not a chemist, but uh chat gpt says polystyrene + gasoline is an exothermic reaction... so that... generates heat... and gasses... and that could be bad... in a tightly sealed container...

😅

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[-] iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works 32 points 7 hours ago

It's a myth perpetuated by people who don't know better. By all means, putting sugar in a gas tank is not advised because, well, sugar doesn't belong in there. But it will not ruin the engine. If it even reaches the engine, you have a pretty bad fuel filter.

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[-] rtxn@lemmy.world 20 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

Nothing. Sugar is not soluble in hydrocarbons and the particles would be caught by the fuel filter. You'd have to replace the filter and clean the fuel tank, but the engine would be fine. Might as well use dirt instead of sugar to achieve the same effect.

[-] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 5 points 5 hours ago

We call table salt “salt” even though that’s a generic name for any metal bonded with a non metallic mineral (for instance potassium chloride). Sugar is the same, table sugar is just one kind of sugar. “Sugar” is the generic name for a type of carbohydrate. Ethanols found in gasoline can degrade into a sugar over time (like in a mower left out over the winter) and this will leave a fine white powder in the engine that will cause scaring when the engine is started. Thus sugar can ruin your engine, but is more likely to increase wear. This has perpetuated an urban legend that you can force this by putting table sugar in a gas tank.

[-] BreadOven@lemmy.world 1 points 54 minutes ago

See the longer response from another user, they're correct. Just wanted to say table sugar is sucrose (a combination of fructose and glucose if I remember correctly). But you will not create sugars in the process you're talking about.

[-] ornery_chemist@mander.xyz 2 points 3 hours ago

I realize (and you mentioned) that sugar is not a well defined term, but calling degradation products of ethanol in gas "sugars" is still a bit of a stretch. Ethanol by itself usually forms some combination of acetaldehyde, acetic acid, 2-carbon peroxides, and CO2 (i.e. not sugars) upon autoxidation, though those species can react with other components of gasoline to form the precipitated "gum". The structure of gum in the literature is pretty hand-wavy (high MW materials kinda just be like that sometimes) but tends to be much more more oxygen-defficient than conventional "sugars" (polysacchatides) even for ethanol blends and contains a wider variety of substructures. Though, I have seen some papers talking about certain microbes that can ferment the ethanol in gasoline, possibly via sugars, but I don't think that's the common degradarion pathway for a mower.

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