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[-] crispy_lol@hexbear.net 93 points 3 weeks ago

You guys think turning this country into broad swaths of suburbs and 10 lane interstates was bad or something?

[-] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 64 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Bro, this country is terminally fucking car brained, even among environmentalist groups. I've been following the CAHSR project pretty close, and the Sierra Club got the planned Los Banos (it's a bedroom community for the bay area and a lot of super commuters live there) station shitcanned early on (because "won't someone please think of the wetlands?!" But also we're totally cool with the 152 bypass project and unlimited suburban expansion into the wetlands, just not anything that will actually do anything to conserve the environment long term), and also made it so that the train had to go into a corrugated metal tunnel while travelling along highway 152 to keep from hurting the birds in the wetlands. Nevermind the four lane highway right next to the train, that's fine, cars never hurt birds, everyone knows that.

[-] BeamBrain@hexbear.net 69 points 3 weeks ago

terminally fucking car brained

Remember how quickly politicians had to walk back talk of "fifteen minute cities" because America collectively shit its pants at the thought of having to walk anywhere? sadness-abysmal

[-] FourteenEyes@hexbear.net 52 points 3 weeks ago

I know that was the joke but no I literally think they were afraid of the 15-minute walk. I read that only 25% of adult Americans walk for more than 10 minutes continuously in a week

[-] ArmoredThirteen@lemmy.zip 27 points 3 weeks ago

My ex spouse and I used to walk places together when we were young. An hour wasn't all that uncommon. The instant they got a car "no I don't want to walk". Yeah we can walk 20min to our destination but why do that when they could spend 5min getting the car ready, 10min driving, 15min being pissed while trying to find parking, then 5min walking because that's the closest parking space to the destination. Blew my mind, years of trying to talk them into walking with me again, never worked

[-] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 17 points 3 weeks ago

god finding street parking is so awful

[-] Xavienth@lemmygrad.ml 16 points 3 weeks ago

Almost like giving every single person a 50 sqft hunk of metal (plus 25 sqft on either end) doesn't work in cities.

[-] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 11 points 3 weeks ago

it sure doesn't

[-] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 5 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Fun fact, the minimum parking spot size in my city is 250 sqft, literally a tiny house

[-] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 15 points 3 weeks ago

I like walking to places. I get to see people and animals

[-] KuroXppi@hexbear.net 19 points 3 weeks ago

I saw that they thought people were going to be fined/arrested for leaving their 15 minute zones. This may have been more a thing in Australia though where we had distance-based travel restrictions and curfews during COVID lockdowns

[-] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 11 points 3 weeks ago

i'd bike if we had infrastructure (and maintained it during the winter) but my legs would fall off if i walked that long.

getting groceries is pushing it even with leaning on the cart.

[-] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 30 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

MODEST EXERCISE?! IT'S A CONSPIRACY, BUT MUH RIGHTS, AAAAAAAA

Tbh, I'm almost certain that was an astroturf by big oil, when it was noticing that people were not commuting and enjoying not commuting during the lock down.

[-] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 22 points 3 weeks ago

Out of all the right-wing outrage idiocy, car dependency is the least believable to be organic.

Rent in cities, especially walkable cities is high for a reason: they’re desirable, in-demand areas. Literally too popular for their own good.

[-] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 10 points 3 weeks ago

I pay out the ass in rent but really gas and upkeep would make up for the difference and then I'd have to drive and live somewhere worse.

[-] infuziSporg@hexbear.net 2 points 3 weeks ago

It's a well-kept secret that lots of smaller cities are both walkable and cheaper.

[-] Abracadaniel@hexbear.net 25 points 3 weeks ago

car = freedom 15 minute city - > no car = no freedom

the government is creating minute cities to take away our freedom & cars. we'll be trapped in the cities which is what THEY want.

[-] infuziSporg@hexbear.net 3 points 3 weeks ago

A box that you can't stand up in, that you spend 4+ hours a day in? Freedom.

Fresh air and being able to change directions in an instant and not spending a quarter of your waking hours cramped up? Basically prison.

[-] TheaJo@hexbear.net 21 points 3 weeks ago

you left out the middleman. it wasn't walking everywhere that did them in, the car funded media couldn't handle it and made a bunch of shit up about eating bugs to make it as hatable as possible

[-] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 13 points 3 weeks ago

It's still a conspiracy theory where I live. I occasionally see protestors protesting it, but like, the city they're protesting in can be traversed by car in 15-30 mins lmao

[-] Eiren@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 3 weeks ago

Sounds like COINTELPRO ngl.

[-] steal_your_face@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 weeks ago
[-] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 2 points 3 weeks ago

YES LET'S FUCKING GO RIDE THE TRAIN CHOO CHOOOOOO

[-] steal_your_face@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 weeks ago
[-] HexReplyBot@hexbear.net 2 points 3 weeks ago

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[-] BodyBySisyphus@hexbear.net 92 points 3 weeks ago

Maybe the giant drop in insect biomass we were warned about 6 years ago is having consequences? Like there's a system of relationships connecting different species together? A sort of chain or web maybe? Nah, that's silly

[-] glingorfel@hexbear.net 55 points 3 weeks ago

that + bird flu is quite the nightmare

[-] BodyBySisyphus@hexbear.net 47 points 3 weeks ago

60 years ago, Rachel Carson wrote Silent Spring and they banned DDT and freaking Nixon of all people established the EPA. And now it's "let 'er rip lol"

[-] vegeta1@hexbear.net 48 points 3 weeks ago

3 billion is catastrophic. Jfc

[-] Belly_Beanis@hexbear.net 31 points 3 weeks ago

Memes aside, how many birds were killed during the 4 Pests Campaign? Because that's what caused all the starvation during the Great Leap Forward when there weren't birds to eat insects which caused huge swarms of locusts to eat all the crops.

Something similar could happen here in the US, except it will be the collapse of ecosystems due to not enough pollinators, rather than biblical plagues destroying all the grain.

[-] vegeta1@hexbear.net 25 points 3 weeks ago

I just heard of hundreds of millions of sparrows. Not sure about other species. If things collapse like that in the US....

[-] AF_R@hexbear.net 15 points 3 weeks ago

The American species of locust was effectively driven to extinction about 100 years ago due to a combination of aggressive campaigns to exterminate them and their breeding grounds and changes in farming practices and types of crop cultivation.

It’s extinctions all the way down, baby!

[-] Belly_Beanis@hexbear.net 8 points 3 weeks ago

The concern about bird populations though is that they're pollinators (just like honeybees). A lot of plants rely on birds for pollination. No birds = no plants = herbivores starve and die = carnivores starve and die = total ecosystem collapse. This would rapidly accelerate climate change and desertification.

[-] BodyBySisyphus@hexbear.net 14 points 3 weeks ago

Corn is wind pollinated tho so the HFCS will keep flowin' corn-man-khrush

[-] AstroStelar@hexbear.net 38 points 3 weeks ago

Further confirmation that JDPON Don is a Maoist mao-aggro-shining :sparrows: /s

[-] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 38 points 3 weeks ago

Okay, but did you think about the short term impacts to profits if we did anything about it?

[-] miz@hexbear.net 33 points 3 weeks ago

killing the planet

[-] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 32 points 3 weeks ago

Dunno why they bother putting out these statements, americans (who are killing the birds) do not care.

[-] Frogmanfromlake@hexbear.net 31 points 3 weeks ago

They’re too focused on vanity to ever change. They need to have their lawns mowed, pesky trees removed, and no sign of wildlife for the perfect pristine life. You can tell them all the negatives of what they’re doing and they’ll talk about property values while contributing to the insect mass extinction through pesticides.

[-] KuroXppi@hexbear.net 11 points 3 weeks ago

The only time they comment on the lack of wildlife is when they notice they don't have to clear as many bugs off their windscreen as they used to. HOAs in North America are terrorist organisations

[-] AernaLingus@hexbear.net 5 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

pesky trees removed

What is it about the suburbanite brain that makes them want to cut down all the trees? This is something I've never understood.

[-] spudnik@hexbear.net 2 points 3 weeks ago

"They're messy!" boils my blood every time I hear it

[-] BountifulEggnog@hexbear.net 6 points 3 weeks ago

Its so I personally can watch as the entire earth dies.

[-] eyyImwalkin@hexbear.net 22 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Maybe they figured out ecofascism already
By refusing to redistribute wealth to the plebs of honkey countrys, they throttle their birth rate to a 1.5 ish tfr and constrain CO2 rise

[-] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 20 points 3 weeks ago

Poor birdies catgirl-cry I get this is also bad news for us but we're hardly the victims here.

[-] gil2455526@lemmy.eco.br 5 points 3 weeks ago

How long until some right wing nut job claims it was wind turbines' fault?

[-] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 5 points 3 weeks ago

Letting Amerikkkans have any power even in their own country should be tried at the Hague for political malpractice.

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