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Dangerously high levels of arsenic and cadmium found in samples of store-bought rice from more than 100 different brands purchased in the US. (archive.ph)
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[-] SootySootySoot@hexbear.net 53 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

~~Dangerous~~ Normal levels of arsenic and cadmium found in samples of store-bought rice from more than 100 different brands purchased in the US.

The highest levels described was 129 parts per billion. The FDA limit for 2-year old infants (for 'rice cereal') is 100ppb. The 'purest' rice in the study is 55 ppb.

There is no study to suggest 129 ppb of Arsenic is dangerous. The headline just baselessly asserts this. The methodology for 'arsenic exposure' also doesn't account for what they mention - that the majority of arsenic in rice actually leaches into the water, which many people throw away. Even people eating the 'worst' US rice are getting more arsenic from fruit and vegetables.

  • Is reducing heavy metal ingestion good and ideal? Yes.
  • Is it also incredibly normal and natural for trace heavy metals to be in food? Yes.
  • And is it true that ALL the studied rice were significantly under "dangerous" levels? Yeah.

Lying headline. Rice is fine. These shitty headlines hurt people more (by instilling anxiety while also turning them away from healthy options like rice) than they help.

[-] sexywheat@hexbear.net 28 points 11 months ago

PPB you say?

[-] Feinsteins_Ghost@hexbear.net 22 points 11 months ago

One hundred and twenty nine of them.

[-] Jabril@hexbear.net 27 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

No amount of heavy metal exposure is healthy and this is just one of the many ways people are exposed to it. Limiting potential exposure, especially in children under two, is pretty serious. Rice is the largest single exposure food of any food type, and for communities that eat rice for multiple meals a day, rice accounts for up to 50% of their children's exposure to arsenic, not to mention other heavy metals. If switching to a different grain is all it takes to greatly reduce that number, it seems pretty silly to hand wave the research.

In a world where exposure to heavy metals, PFAS, microplastics, formaldehyde and other dangerous substances is both a daily occurrence and being monitored less rigorously by the state organizations designed to keep exposure low, it's definitely good to be aware that staple foods which billions rely on every day can be settings kids up for a lifetime of adverse health outcomes. Edit: also want to add that consistently getting covid fucks your immune system too so adding all the virus and sickness we are collectively dealing with to carcinogens and heavy metal exposure... It's just good to limit what you can when you can

Edit: also, who throws away rice water? You steam the rice in the water which is absorbed by the rice. The article suggests cooking rice like pasta and tossing the water to reduce arsenic but to suggest most people already do this is absolutely false

[-] OgdenTO@hexbear.net 14 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Don't people rinse rice before cooking it? I believe that is the rice water that is thrown away, not after cooking.

But also that rinsing water is often used in many parts of the world as a baby formula substitute. So, that's not great if that's where most of the heavy metals are going.

[-] Jabril@hexbear.net 29 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Rinsing before cooking does not reduce arsenic amounts. If you soak it over night and dump that it will help, especially if agitated during the soaking, but the research cited in this article explicitly says rinsing without at least a 30 min soak doesn't do it. The best method is to cook one cup of rice : 6-10 cups of water and then draining that water, adding fresh water and finishing the cooking

[-] OgdenTO@hexbear.net 11 points 11 months ago

Thanks for the clarification, I did not see that part.

[-] SootySootySoot@hexbear.net 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I do not disagree with literally anything you've said here, so I'm not sure why you're presenting it as such.

Nor am I 'hand wave'ing the research, I'm reading it and seeing what it actually says, like you also have. What the cited research definitively does not claim (or even imply) is "Dangerously high levels of arsenic and cadmium found in samples of store-bought rice from more than 100 different brands purchased in the US.".

[-] Jabril@hexbear.net 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

You said there is nothing stating arsenic is dangerous, which is false. No amount of heavy metal exposure is safe. These products contain heavy metals, including cadmium. The reason no amount is safe is because it accumulates in the body and can't be removed, and it accumulates from a variety of sources both known and unknown. It is especially dangerous for children, but adults also get heavy metal poisoning. You presented this as if everything is fine, nothing to see here and that isn't the case. You also said the majority leaches into water which is thrown away, which is false.

[-] SootySootySoot@hexbear.net 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

You said there is nothing stating arsenic is dangerous, which is false.

No, I 100% didn't say that.

You presented this as if everything is fine, nothing to see here

I literally said up front that reducing heavy metal intake is a good and ideal thing to do.

You also said the majority leaches into water which is thrown away, which is false.

I'll absolutely admit I failed to clarify this applies only to certain common cooking methods. Still, the underlying point is still valid - the methodology did not account for this seemingly significant factor.

We still seem to entirely agree. Perhaps depending a bit on your definition of 'safe'. It might just be I'm not communicating my points well - so apologies if that's down to me.

[-] Jabril@hexbear.net 2 points 11 months ago

There is no study to suggest 129 ppb of Arsenic is dangerous.

Sorry but I don't really see how this quote of yours is much different from what I paraphrased.

You did say reducing is good but that was one line couched in a lot of language implying that this article should be disregarded and you said that rice is fine and that heavy metals in rice is normal. While it is true that heavy metals can be found in foods sometimes, I don't think implying that this study should be disregarded is ideal, and if you didn't mean to imply that, it did come off that way to me.

I'll absolutely admit I failed to clarify this applies only to certain common cooking methods. Still, the underlying point is still valid - the methodology did not account for this seemingly significant factor.

They do talk about this and encourage people to do it, but I really don't think it is a common cooking method to use 6-10 cups of water per cup of rice and dump the water out. I come from a rice eating culture and married into a different one, I've worked in restaurants, I've never heard of anyone doing this. It is certainly not a "common cooking method."

I'm not trying to be combative or anything, I just saw your comment as the only one and got a totally different read from the piece and didn't want the default comment people read to be "nothing to see here folks," which is what it looked like to me. I know too many kids and adults who have gotten heavy metal poisoning, among the myriad other unnecessary and avoidable health risks people face, to see that and not offer another perspective

[-] Lyudmila@hexbear.net 44 points 11 months ago

TL;DR

The levels detected are only considered dangerous to infants under 2 years of age for whom rice makes up a significant portion of their diet.

The dangers here are developmental factors, and cannot/will not affect adults or older children.

Thai Jasmine Rice, Calrose, and Indian Basmati are fine, and have tested below the dangerous levels even for those infants consuming large quantities of rice.

Brown rice and especially Instant Rice are the ones to avoid.

[-] Xenomorph@hexbear.net 25 points 11 months ago

[-] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 20 points 11 months ago

🎵 All the food is poison🎵

🎵 All the food is poison🎵

[-] kristina@hexbear.net 17 points 11 months ago

So what AM I allowed to eat jfc

[-] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 5 points 11 months ago

“Leave us alone. If you don’t like it, you start a farm and gr…uhh…ascend to godhood and start your OWN planet!”

smuglord

[-] Bartsbigbugbag@lemmy.ml 15 points 11 months ago

👏 Wash 👏 your 👏 rice 👏

[-] Xavienth@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 11 months ago

Washing rice does not actually significantly remove contaminants

[-] LaGG_3@hexbear.net 6 points 11 months ago

It mostly removes extra starch, so you should still do it lol

[-] hellinkilla@hexbear.net 1 points 11 months ago

I didn't think it would stand up to scrutiny but I only find confirmatory information upon cursory research. I am not in a position to evaluate the research. Maybe someone else could comment.

example:

Effects of washing, soaking and domestic cooking on cadmium, arsenic and lead bioaccessibilities in rice - PubMed

Washing and cooking of rice lowered the health risk by reducing Cd, As and Pb concentrations and bioaccessibilities respectively.

everything found was along the same lines

[-] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 12 points 11 months ago

Fuck, I’ve been relying on risotto for my lunches all week.

[-] SootySootySoot@hexbear.net 13 points 11 months ago

You're fine. The headline is wrong.

[-] iie@hexbear.net 7 points 11 months ago

I sure hope so lol, do you have a source?

[-] Lyudmila@hexbear.net 8 points 11 months ago

Literally the article text itself. Or if you're short on time and can't read it, I read it for you! Here's a summary.

[-] Evilphd666@hexbear.net 11 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

While the report does list the names of the 105 brands tested, that’s not what’s important

CNN translation: safe for all advertisers language. (Also 211 tests of different products, not just "brands")

I buy Three Ladies Jasmine rice in bulk 50lbs bags from my local Asian store. It is good to report on the specific brands so people can be an informed consumer, rather than a blanket

The USA Rice Federation, which represents American growers, told CNN via email that rice grown in the United States contains the lowest levels of inorganic arsenic in the world ....

The California-grown rice had the lowest overall heavy metal content — 65 parts per billion, with 55 parts per billion from arsenic — making it an excellent choice to reduce overall exposure, Houlihan said

collusion "'Merican rice be better. Buy 'Merican" trump-feed

Here is the PDF LINK to the studies. it's in Appendix A.

[-] D61@hexbear.net 8 points 11 months ago

Fuck you rats, eat me and you'll fuckin' die!

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