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submitted 5 days ago by Acidbeforesex@lemm.ee to c/privacy@lemmy.ml

Is there anything I can use coupled with a VPN to block device fingerprinting, like software I can use on my phone.

Ill be frank, I am attempting to circumvent Reddit ban evasion. We all know they are some punk ass removed and they ban people for very frivolous reasons.

If anyone has some guidance. I've attempted using a VPN, and a browser incognito mode and still I've been banned. Been through countless handles with tons of emails from AOL based to gmails to yahoo to Proton emails, still banned. As of now I have been provoked and just want to stick it to them. Because fuck em.

Despite this Reddit has very wide expanding anonymous communities that I grew quite accustomed to. I am not in person social person but I really need a sense of community which is what I used Reddit for. However, a few years ago I said something ridiculous and since then its like I've been on a list

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[-] MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Using a VPN could be part of the reason, I imagine they don't like people making accounts using one.

The best way I can think of is go to a library or something that uses a standard browser with a normal fingerprint, and is not on a VPN, and try signing up for a new account there using a new email address on gmail/yahoo or another 'normal' email provider. You want to look like a normal average user.

All the anti-fingerprinting and privacy stuff just makes you stand out more because there is less data being presented and makes you wildly different from the average user.

I am not in person social person but I really need a sense of community which is what I used Reddit for.

You're on Lemmy which has some of that! Also worth joining some discord groups for things you're interested in, or matrix if they are active (not very common).

[-] moseschrute@lemmy.ml 19 points 5 days ago

The more you block, the more unique you become, and the more finger printable you are. Every divination from a standard browser is another data point they can use to uniquely identify you. It’s possible to fingerprint someone even with JavaScript disabled. Tor got it right imo by making every instance of Tor look as identical as possible. That’s what we need to do. Idk I’m no expert but that’s what I think.

[-] MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 3 hours ago

It's an upside and downside right, because every Tor user looking the same makes it very difficult to tell users apart, but it also makes it dead simple to know someone is using Tor and block them.

[-] moseschrute@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 hours ago

A better example would be if Apple could make every instance of Safari look identital. It’s too large a percentage of traffic to block. Sure Tor is more serious about privacy than Apple, but Apple imo has the best shot at pulling it off. Google is too anti Privacy and all the smaller projects don’t have the market share. Maybe FireFox, but I don’t keep up as much with them tbh.

[-] utopiah@lemmy.ml 13 points 5 days ago

Sorry to say but looks like you are investing a ton of resources for a behavior that is not very healthy.

I know it's tempting to go back but ponder why though.

Lemmy isn't perfect but maybe we can help do better, be better?

[-] Geodad@lemm.ee 9 points 5 days ago

Reddit links your account to the phone IMEI. The only way to get around it is to get a different phone.

[-] koper@feddit.nl 9 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Websites do not have access to your IMEI. That's only a concern when you use the app.

[-] Geodad@lemm.ee 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

What OP is describing sounds like they got some sort of hardware blacklisted. Either they are using the app on the same phone, or Reddit has blacklisted the modem MAC.

[-] MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 3 hours ago

Websites don't have access to the MAC addresses of a device either.

[-] Melody@lemmy.one 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

I'd say you can try do it; but I caution you on doing so. It will be problematic

You cannot be completely undetected if using the reddit app. You must avoid using a mobile device; these are too easily trackable and the browsers on mobile devices lack sufficient privacy protections.

  • First and foremost you'll have to setup to access reddit from a completely unique device. I recommend a virtual machine on a computer using a privacy respecting browser like Librewolf.
  • Secondly, you'll need a good paid VPN...I recommend Mullvad. Do not create your account with this VPN! It will trip alarms.
  • Third, you'll need a laptop with a similar private browser. do not use your main Windows user account. Create a new local account. This is to enforce that you do not access reddit for account creation using a "known" browser fingerprint.
  • Fourth, you will need to travel. It must be somewhere out of town; and you should be using a public wifi network when creating the reddit account. Be aware of the ISP coverage in your area and travel far enough that you do not use the same ISP as your own. If you don't know their coverage area; look it up online. Travel to a place they don't offer service.
  • Fifth, Once you have traveled, use the clean windows account you created to create the new reddit account. Do not name your account similar to your banned account, or subscribe to any subreddits that are outside of /r/popular.
  • Farm some karma. Ideally 1k is enough. 100 will do in a pinch but you'll need to keep farming it; which is a dumb idea to do on a VPN.
  • Verify a fresh email address. Use only tuta.com as your mail provider.
  • Stay off the reddit account on your home PCs and network. Use reddit only in a public wifi setting on the laptop as described above. Do this for no less than 30 days while farming karma. No need to travel out of town; local public/private wifi will do. (Just not yours).
  • Once the account has aged a month; you can log in with the VPN as mentioned above at home using the virtual machine at home. Continue using the VPN for the foreseeable future. Enjoy sticking it to Spez.
[-] Acidbeforesex@lemm.ee 1 points 4 days ago

Jesus christ lol..you'd think I'm getting a list of special agent aliases

[-] Melody@lemmy.one 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

As someone who formerly modded on reddit for over a decade; I do know what trips the alerts typically. The steps I give are important to establish a fresh account with nothing an idle internet sleuth can link back to you; as well as preventing Mod(Bots) from detecting you. Reddit Automoderator has 'Admin eyes'...even if it lacks the permissions to act like one. It can, and will use algorithms on those eyes to assess your 'threat level'. Knowing the trajectory of reddit when I quit; it probably uses AI now. Before it was a dumb blackbox of algorithmic rules the Admins never really made fully clear about how it worked. This dumb blackbox made frequent mistakes.

[-] Acidbeforesex@lemm.ee 1 points 3 days ago

May I ask why you are a "former" moderator?

[-] Melody@lemmy.one 1 points 3 hours ago

If you have to ask that; you really must have been living under a rock for the past 3-5 years.

[-] catloaf@lemm.ee 5 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Is there anything I can use coupled with a VPN to block device fingerprinting, like software I can use on my phone.

Short answer: no. Due to the volume of data transmitted in an ordinary HTTP request, each point in that data set contributes to your uniqueness. You can use fingerprinting test sites to identify them and make yourself less unique.

In reality, there is very little application of this technique. Major companies like Facebook and Google are using it, but if you're not visiting their sites, it's unlikely that it's going to matter. Mike's Used Appliances is not trying to fingerprint you.

[-] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 10 points 5 days ago

Mike’s Used Appliances is not trying to fingerprint you.

Mike's Used Appliances might use Google Analytics though.

[-] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago

There are online SMS/email you can use. Still you can skip the verify step for the email. Letting an account age and gather some karma (with few comments to not trip spam filter) should help.

I'd go topublic WiFi before vpn

[-] besselj@lemmy.ca 3 points 5 days ago

Go to a library, create an account on the public computer there with whatever email works. Creating accounts on VPNs with non-mainstream email addresses draws suspicion.

[-] Acidbeforesex@lemm.ee 3 points 5 days ago

So create without VPN on a public computer with whatever email that wouldn't be connected with previous logins.

Would you say I shouldn't use the app on my phone anymore even through a VPN or stay on browser?

[-] besselj@lemmy.ca 3 points 5 days ago

Just don't use a VPN when creating an account, since reddit will likely flag the account as a bot/spammer.

You can and should use a VPN normally after you've created the account. Might be smart to wait a week or so after making the account to start using it on your personal devices though, just to seem less suspicious. Also, make sure you have MAC address randomization and no stored cookies if using the account on the same devices that you used with your banned account.

[-] Acidbeforesex@lemm.ee 2 points 5 days ago

Got it, thank you..I will win this war

[-] HelloRoot@lemy.lol 2 points 5 days ago

jshelter extension in firefox

[-] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 2 points 4 days ago

Most sites won't let you use them unless they can fingerprint you so that's how I know jshelter actually works 🐸

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