Are the Haredi the ones who believe that Israel cannot exist before the Messiah comes?
Yes, nothing this person is saying is crazy if you understand the context of their sect's belief.
vegantheoryclub? lol, who goes to that instance?
Anyone who has an opinion that differs from the VTC admin.
To be fair genocide is vegan
Most famous vegetarian, Adolf Hitler commited genocide. Therefore genocide is vegan {QED} checkmate libtards op did nothing wrong
Enemy of my enemy can still be enemy.
Shouldn’t call them “heroes”…
Literally. Hamas has done basically nothing to help the people. The people of Gaza are the heroes Hamas and Israel are just a couple of monsters victimizing them.
Hamas is the perfect partner for Israeli genocidaires. That's why Israel funded them in the first place.
Literally. Hamas has done basically nothing to help the people.
Not directly, but it's no coincidence that the Palestine solidarity movement only expands after Israel uses Hamas as an excuse to slaughter Gazans. Since at least 2006 Hamas has been a very important catalyst for the advancement of the Palestinian cause (which isn't mutually exclusive with them being massive pricks, that's also true).
That's like a Make-a-Wish kid thanking cancer for making them famous Etc. I think most Make-a-Wish kids would just wish that they didn't have cancer. Hamas has literally done nothing for the Palestinians since they managed to gain power. Just make things worse while working in cahoots with Israel.
If Fatah was still in power, Israel would’ve had a much more difficult time in demonizing Gaza in their propaganda outlets.
They also wouldn't need to, because the West wouldn't give a shit about Gaza without Hamas activities to put Palestine in the news. There's a reason Hamas won that election in 2006.
They also wouldn’t need to, because the West wouldn’t give a shit about Gaza without Hamas activities to put Palestine in the news.
... Gaza was a big fucking deal back when Fatah was in power, and it was when Fatah was at the head of things that the peace process came closest to becoming reality, with significant Western interest and support.
Israel giving them money?
I'm pretty sure that was after 2006. Leading up to the 2006 elections Hamas highlighted the success of violent resistance in ejecting Israel from Gaza compared to the abject failure of peaceful resistance by Fatah. My point here is that despite their many flaws, they actually get things done, and their getting things done is a large part of why the Palestinian cause has gotten as far as it has.
I’m pretty sure that was after 2006.
Hamas has been receiving Israeli support since the late 80s when it was founded.
My point here is that despite their many flaws, they actually get things done,
What? Speeding up the genocide by being the Israeli right's perfect foil in this grotesque kayfabe?
and their getting things done is a large part of why the Palestinian cause has gotten as far as it has.
... Gaza is on the verge of total genocide, and the West Bank is looking to be next. Is that progress for the Palestinian cause?
Do you think the average westerner is aware of what is happening in the West Bank?
Do you think the average westerner would be aware of what is happening in Gaza if Hamas wasn't retaliating against Isreal?
I don't condone what Hamas is doing, but I'm not going to be so naive to believe the western world would give a shit about Palestine if not for Hamas putting a spotlight on Gaza. We probably wouldn't even be having this discussion without Hamas, we (in the collective sense) would be letting Isreal annex Palestinian lands with minimal criticism.
Most don't know even with what Hamas is doing. Which is mostly hurting the people they're supposed to represent. Most Palestinians dislike Hamas as much as anyone else. They just can't do anything about it.
It's always that guy
I pay extra attention to him because his instance is the only active vegan one.
ngl probably russians, spewing hate online to further conflictand
unlikely considering how small lemmy is. Waste of resources.
Could’ve left that part out…
Fucking scum.
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