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Cid from Final Fantasy 9 was 35?! THIS GUY, with the steely grey beard and glorious regal moustache?! He's clearly 20 years older than that!

As an adult I thought it was kind of funny that Steiner, at 33, is the designated doddering fussy comic relief old man of the party but this is just nuts.

I keep being confounded by the way Japanese media treats age. 6-21 is prime adventuring age, you're practically done at 25 and afterwards you should just shuffle off to a retirement home

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[-] LaGG_3@hexbear.net 23 points 4 days ago

I keep being confounded by the way Japanese media treats age. 6-21 is prime adventuring age, you're practically done at 25 and afterwards you should just shuffle off to a retirement home

I think a lot of it is how Japan has a terrible work-life balance. Once you're in the workforce, you're supposed to be a good salaryman or OL lol.

[-] doublepepperoni@hexbear.net 17 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

It's probably what's underpinning this.

It's sometimes interesting to see how characters across media are seen by Western and Japanese audiences. The average Westerner looks at someone like Geralt and thinks he's the Coolest Guy Ever That Definitely Gets All The Ladies while Japanese people think "shouldn't this ossan be with his wife and kids"

[-] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 20 points 4 days ago

In Japanese media you're either 12 or 200, no inbetween

[-] underisk@hexbear.net 11 points 4 days ago

What about the classic “looks like 12 but actually 200”?

[-] Frivolous_Beatnik@hexbear.net 8 points 4 days ago

their greatest antagonist - libertarian-alert

[-] KobaCumTribute@hexbear.net 17 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

The most reasonable explanation I've seen for at least part of that is that you get authors writing stories about adult characters and drawing them that way, except they're targeting the series at a teen demographic so they age them down and depending on setting maybe have them going to school instead of a job or something, leading to a weird compression that's oddly reminiscent of Hollywood casting aging actors in much younger roles. You get 14 year old characters drawn as 18 year olds, 18 year olds drawn as 20 somethings, 20 year olds drawn as 30 somethings, and 30 somethings drawn as ~60 year old Sean Bean playing a 35 year old in Game of Thrones.

[-] WizardOfLoneliness@hexbear.net 12 points 4 days ago

The japanese always be doin' this shit

2-3 seasons ago one of my favorite slop animes was about an "old man" who became an adventurer. That old man? 33

I WAS 33

[-] Gosplan14_the_Third@hexbear.net 12 points 4 days ago

guy looks like a walking Turn A Gundam reference

[-] LaGG_3@hexbear.net 5 points 4 days ago

pulls nuke out of shirt and flings it

[-] 30_to_50_Feral_PAWGs@hexbear.net 13 points 4 days ago

Guile in the original Street Fighter II, according to early promo materials, was canonically supposed to be like 34 (born 1960), and was in the Vietnam War. I think all that glorious Nippon steel must just warp the flow of time over there or something.

[-] doublepepperoni@hexbear.net 10 points 4 days ago

Guile was just one of those child soldiers that are also a common trope in anime and manga think-about-it

[-] BelieveRevolt@hexbear.net 11 points 4 days ago

Hey, at least Trails through Daybreak has an older JRPG main character. He's 24.

I do appreciate how the Yakuza/Like A Dragon series actually has older characters.

[-] doublepepperoni@hexbear.net 8 points 4 days ago

Wild Arms 1 for the PS1 had a leading man that was a clear adult at 27 which was nice (balanced out by the other two leads being 17 and 15, I guess)

I think what helps Yakuza is that it has a more realistic art style and has a non-school modern Japanese setting

[-] LaGG_3@hexbear.net 9 points 4 days ago

I think what helps Yakuza is that it has a more realistic art style and has a non-school modern Japanese setting

What helps Yakuza is that it's pulling stuff from media marketed to adults lol.

[-] TraschcanOfIdeology@hexbear.net 7 points 4 days ago

Children could never understand Baka Mitai.

[-] LaGG_3@hexbear.net 4 points 4 days ago

Only a lost child trapped in a 30-something year old body could. kiryu-dame-da-ne

[-] TraschcanOfIdeology@hexbear.net 4 points 4 days ago

Bro, that's how the first line of the song goes wowee

[-] BelieveRevolt@hexbear.net 6 points 4 days ago

Kiryu and Majima basically haven't aged at all, other than 0 where they look younger, I swear they look the same in every game. While playing Pirate Yakuza in Hawaii, I had to constantly remind myself that Majima is canonically 60, lol.

[-] Comrade_Mushroom@hexbear.net 8 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Yeah as I mentioned in the mega I'm real fuckin' tired of this bizarre mentality that you get out of high school, you get to be young for like 7 to 12 years, then the remaining 50ish years of your lifespan you're "old" and you have to feel bad about it. Like what happened to just being a grown-ass adult?

It ain't just Japan, it's a brainworm across the whole goddamn internet. It's sickening; it makes me sad for the people who genuinely feel this way about their own lives and it aggravates me when they spout this mentality because it feels like it's an assault on my own mindset (and what I thought was the normal, practical and healthy mindset) that aging is part of the experience of being alive, and that there are many benefits to becoming a more mature and enriched person as you encounter more that life has to offer. Personally I have become much more calm, much more capable of focusing, and much more willing to learn things as I have grown.

A) Getting older is the goal, it is (generally) something to be celebrated, not lamented.

B) When you're not even fucking 50 yet, and you're crying about being "old", people in their 60s/70s/80s/etc. will just straight up laugh in your face, because that shit is embarrassing. Cut it the fuck out.

[-] LeGrognardOfLove@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 4 days ago

Japanese society is a form of modern slavery. Once you are out of university and a "salaryman", all your hopes and dreams are crushed. You're the feodal slave of someone who inherited his wealth and is using the ultra-conservative system to keep you in the same position all of your life.

This is why most Japanese media are all about the power of youth and such...

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