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Note that I'm not necessarily opposed to her facing consequences for killing him -- my issue is with how gleefully NYPost is framing it as if she just attacked him out of the blue and shoehorning her into the "evil transgenders" stereotype

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[-] MTK@lemmy.world 98 points 10 months ago

You know something is up when they state that they are transgender when it bears no meaning to the actual article. This would be the same as "Gay man murdered people" the point is bigotry.

[-] musubibreakfast@lemm.ee 32 points 10 months ago

Violently homosexual man brutalizes innocent bystander in gay rage.

[-] hperrin@lemmy.ca 14 points 10 months ago

You gotta mention that the innocent bystanders are straight, or else conservatives won’t know whether to feel sorry for them or be happy they were attacked.

[-] musubibreakfast@lemm.ee 4 points 10 months ago

Innocent God fearing all American red blooded heterosexual bystanders.

[-] GlendatheGayWitch@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago

Yeah, you hardly ever hear Christian gunman kills X children at school.

[-] yarr@feddit.nl 43 points 10 months ago

Here is CBS's coverage of the event:

A deli worker told CBS News New York that Hodge was ordering a sandwich when a woman at the counter got angry and began arguing with him over who was first in line to order. According to the deli worker, in that instant, the woman pulled out a knife and stabbed Hodge in the stomach. USPS confirmed Hodge was a letter carrier assigned to Manhattan.

It appears to have started over a dispute over who was first in line. It's up to you to decide if that's a rational reason to attack someone with a knife, regardless of your sexuality / gender identity.

https://www.cbsnews.com/newyork/news/usps-worker-stabbed-to-death-in-harlem/

[-] sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 10 months ago

In this version nobody attacked her.

Ny post is still anti -trans regardless

[-] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 37 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

ITT: propaganda successfully vilifying trans people as a group and idiots gobbling it up

Ask yourself why the news never specifies criminals gender identities unless it's one of the scapegoats.

Nothing will meaningfully improve until the rich fear for their lives

[-] Mustakrakish@lemmy.world 14 points 10 months ago

I doubt they framed the dude who chocked the homeless man to death on the subway as a "disgusting human being"

[-] musubibreakfast@lemm.ee 9 points 10 months ago

Upstanding heterosexual cisgendered male citizen forced to take homeless bum's life in deadly subway altercation.

[-] RedAggroBest@lemmy.world 33 points 10 months ago

Yea, as awful as the NY Post is for framing it this way, this ain't about them being trans. She bought a knife, wanted to stab someone, picked a fight and continually escalated (she fucking spat on him, sorry but bodily fluids are an assault and the dude had every right to treat it as being hit) until she pulled a knife in an encounter she started.

Got hit three times before pulling a knife? Just cuz she was too fucking slow to stab him after the first hit like she wanted to.

Can't believe there's people defending this.

[-] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 25 points 10 months ago

I'm guessing that people are defending transgenders in general and this shitbait NY post article frames it in. Away that isn't too far off from insinuating that all trans are "pure evil".

Hell, "trans" shouldn't have been in the headline as it is of no consequence to what happened. Whatever the reason for the incident, she didn't stab the guy because she's trans. One human stabbed another, that one was trans or black or green for all I care doesn't matter and it is very hard not to feel that this bit was added just to sow division amongst people

[-] PrettyFlyForAFatGuy@feddit.uk 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

it's a dogwhistle. they're implying that trans people are mentally ill and that the postal worker is a victim of inaction with or indulgence in the trans population.

It's the same reason why all the chuds started banging out about how violent trans people/leftists are when that trans man (~~if i remember correctly~~ i did) shot up a school a year or so ago.

despite the fact that the overwhelming amount of school shooters are cis right wing incels

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[-] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 30 points 10 months ago

NY Post is staffed by scumbag shitheads.

[-] _stranger_@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

Exactly, and if they stopped "reporting" things this way they'd go out of business and their horrible customers would probably make something even worse more popular.

[-] Diddlydee@feddit.uk 19 points 10 months ago

Did he attack her though? Seems from the articles I read that she spat on him first. That's the attack.

It also seems she was arrested 5 times prior for knife crimes.

[-] Eyekaytee@aussie.zone 10 points 10 months ago

"I separate them. The mail guy in the front, the lady she was in back. She spit on him, in his face. And mail guy, he got mad. Lemon juice next to the coffee machine, he threw on her. So she took the knife," the deli worker said.

Witnesses claimed that, in an instant, Cruz pulled out a knife and fatally stabbed Hodge.

Yeah

Cruz stands a towering 6 feet 5 inches tall. Witnesses to the murder described her as huge, and said she appeared to be high on drugs during her confrontation with Hodges.

...

Well thanks for adding a +1 to the womens murder rate and not to mens, we need it

[-] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

TBH this community is pretty consistent for these sort of takes. Rage no matter how impotent is welcome here, but they issue warnings to people who want to de-escelate and look at the facts.

[-] saltesc@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

There's 15 very big reasons that say it was certainly not self-defence.

[-] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 18 points 10 months ago

Not sure why the perpetrator being trans was important enough to put in the title, considering it didn't seem to have anything to do with the crime....

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[-] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 18 points 10 months ago

Does this mean they'll put "cisgender" in the title for all the other criminals?

[-] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 17 points 10 months ago

Yeah, this is a tabloid. In a decent world people running tabloids would be imprisoned or doing thousands of hours of community service.

[-] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 10 months ago

Its insane how every single trans and queer person is expected to be perfect law abiding citizens or suddenly the act of being Queer makes you a murderer. They used the same justification during the Holocaust to murder Jews and they're using the justification to murder Palestinians.

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[-] Owlboi@lemm.ee 11 points 10 months ago

this post is complete dogshit. "self defense" my ass

[-] Pestilence@feddit.org 11 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

“I killed him laughing. Oh, well. I’ll piss on his grave.”

Sorry, but this IS pure evil.

[-] pixeltree@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 10 months ago

Yeah, I'm trans and find this pretty indefensible. I've gotten slurs yelled at me, I've never started a physical fight over it and certainly never fucking stabbed someone 14 times to death.

[-] Ferretyfever0@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 10 months ago

Yeah, I'd probably feel worse for her if she seemed to have felt anything about this. There's no reason to ever feel happy about having killed someone. Perhaps relieved as in a "it's finally over" kind of way. But finding the fact that you've killed someone funny? Not reasonable whatsoever. He shouldn't have called her slurs, but words deserve words, actions deserve action. Fuck both of them.

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[-] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 11 points 10 months ago

You claim the postal worker attacked the woman. I'm not finding any information about that. What was the nature of this "attack"?

[-] GhostedIC@sh.itjust.works 10 points 10 months ago

Here's a news source with an account of what allegedly happened. Of course nothing has been proven in court yet.

According to the charges, Hodge was at the store’s sandwich counter when Cruz cut in line, leading a dispute between the pair. After a witness separated them, Cruz allegedly went into their bag while Hodge’s back was turned, retrieved a knife and threatened him with it.

Prosecutors said Cruz then allegedly threw a plastic bottle at Hodge before lunging at him, stabbing him multiple times in the chest, neck, and arms. After a struggle in which Hodge attempted to wrestle the weapon away from her, he collapsed. A witness reported hearing Cruz remark: “He deserved it.”

Hodges was rushed to Harlem Hospital, where he was pronounced dead.

“This alleged broad-daylight stabbing shook the neighborhood, including the deli workers and customers who witnessed the attack,” said District Attorney Bragg. “My thoughts are with those grieving the loss of Ray Hodge, a postal worker and beloved father of two.”

After her arrest, Cruz reportedly admitted to police that she stabbed Hodge with a knife she carried for “protection.” Cruz also allegedly referred to Hodge as a racial slur.

Not sounding good.

“He rolls up his sleeves, and then he hits my client, and every time he approaches her, she backs up. And he approaches her again, she backs up until she’s all the way at the refrigerator and then when he’s still berating her and calling her a f**got and a tranny, she spat at him,” Schuman said. “You can see on the video that she’s saying to him, leave me alone. But he doesn’t leave her alone. He attacks her again.”

So there is an alleged video with contradicts a lot of what the witnesses say. I'd be cautious of defending this one. If it turns out that the lawyer is just exaggerating an unclear video, youre probably going to get tricked into defending an awful person. Again.

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[-] rumba@lemmy.zip 8 points 10 months ago

Ahh the good ole broken post

[-] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago

Can't really expect better from that rag

[-] GaetanLaberge@lemm.ee 6 points 10 months ago

Identity politics are cancerous

[-] Krauerking@lemy.lol 6 points 10 months ago

People need to stop picking sides and in groups. If people are mistreating you it doesn't really matter what group you belong in as that's more just for personal identification and doesn't help the situation at all to defend based on sides.

Ehh, no one here will care when our identity is all we think that matters. But this just further divides the groups and continues the work of the assholes that think it useful to do so.

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[-] Imhotep@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

that's breitbart level of misinformation right here

467 upvotes, lemmy. Congrats, you're as full of shit as right wingers.

[-] Walk_blesseD@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 10 months ago
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