So... they lied?
Just like the Ghost of Kiev, the Nordstream bombing, that one ship - i forgot the name of the ship - killing 128% of Russian forces, et al.
So... they lied?
Eh, yes and no, like this is a longstanding thing with reporting losses/kills in military engagements, everybody over reports kills and underreports losses. A known example is that during WWII in the Pacific, japan zeroes that retreated would throw the throttle to a bit of a overload max in a way, and doing so would cause the engine to smoke a lot. The thing is that to the US pilots a plane smoking that badly was as far as they knew was going to go down, and so they reported those smoking retreating zeroes as kills, then at the end we find out that the US navy killed significantly more planes then what Japan had.
So even without any ulterior motive of propaganda, over/underreporting tends to happen a lot if not all the time in any military conflict.
Edit: If you want a funnier example, how many Tiger Is did the US army see and engage on the western front in WWII? If we take the words of tankers as truth, nearly every time they saw and engaged a german tank (especially if there was a long gun Pz IV in the fight), in actuality it was only three times.
as shocked as you are
snake island lmao
Recent core memory unlocked: at the time I was looking up laser woodcarving stuff, and someone on reddit had made a big, ugly cumbersome minimalist diorama about that, like a big 2×2×1 foot box with "F*ck you, Russian warship" or whatever carved all big on it. I just stared at it thinking "you made this for upvotes and then now what?" I assume it's not still taking up space in that guy's garage.
::: spoiler A story in two parts
So the number 1 cappers in the world...were capping?
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