Lunch debt? The fuck outta here with that dystopian nightmare shit
It's the first stop on the way to slave labor.
Christ empowered his followers to clothe the naked, feed the hungry and tend to the sick. For some reason American Christians have decided that these explicit dictates should he ignored, much like the reminder that it is not their role to judge, so that they can instead focus on bigotry.
That's pretty much the entire history of Christianity.
It's really not.
The corrupt nature of the Church as an institution exists to take advantage of the naive humanitarianism of its fellowship.
People, by and large, do want to help their neighbors and provide for the young and the elderly. Modern prosperity gospel Christianity and historical Catholicism/Protestantism hasn't change human nature. People in the church still pursue benevolent goals. It only pollutes human perception and education, by misallocating resources intended to improve society.
Expecting Christianity to base their actions on Jesus is like expecting the Nestle corporation to base their actions on the Quik Bunny.
"You might be giving your kids a terrible childhood, so we're going to ensure they have a terrible life starting in our first-class foster care system"
Kids go to public school during lunchtime. Public school feeds the children lunch (something with real nutritional value that we would all want our kids eating). Kids do not pay for this. That's it. There should be no further discussion here. If you disagree with this I want to put my thumb into your eye socket in the worst way. It's so fucked up this is even a topic of discussion.
They're the future of our country and society, and legally required to be there, but we won't feed them.
'cause 'merica you fucking commie.
How dare you invest in the future? Our potential future tax base needs to learn how to starve or go into debt - those are the most important lessons in the good old US of fucking A.
Punishing the poor for the crime of poverty.
How typically conservative.
Not pulling on those bootstraps hard enough
Starve your kid or lose them. That's quite a choice for a poor parent to make.
My late father grew up in an orphanage because my grandfather was too poor to care for 5 kids and a sick wife. My grandparents were able to take the kids home on Sundays though, so it wasn't a situation where they yielded full custody. I'm not saying an orphanage was ideal, but it's a shame that these days there is not the same kind of middle ground where kids can be cared for but still stay connected to their family. I guess that is too much of a social safety net for conservatives to tolerate.
Who made this warning?
I need a name
Because that has nothing to do with debt, putting kids in foster care wound only cost the state even more money
That is only about unbridled power and control
Absolutely delusional
Agreed. Name and shame. Whatever fucker came up with this deserves to be ostracised.
The Wyoming Valley West School District.
If you want the name of the person standing behind the letter,
Wyoming Valley West's lawyer, Charles Coslett, said he did not consider the letters to be threatening.
"Hopefully, that gets their attention and it certainly did, didn't it? I mean, if you think about it, you're here this morning because some parents cried foul because he or she doesn't want to pay a debt attributed to feeding their kids. How shameful," Coslett told WYOU-TV.
I'm having a hard time confirming it, but it looks like an Irvin DeRemer was the super while this occurred, but was replaced in the 2025 election.
It's also an empty threat,
Luzerne County's manager and child welfare agency director have written the superintendent, insisting the district stop making what they call false claims.
Also. The majority of long term homeless individuals are people that aged out of the foster care system. The moment they turn 18 they are out on their ass with only the clothing on their back and no life skills because foster care in America is little better than prison.
Aka slavery. The stories of foster kids are often horrific.
Yes, but kids in foster care are easy to abuse, so your tax dollars might be worth it for some.
Do the schools actually have the authority to do that or is it like all those other empty threats I use to get? It's insane, but not surprising that the schools would threaten that. The sort of family who has to skip on paying lunch debts also doesn't have means to talk to a lawyer.
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Luzerne County's manager and child welfare agency director have written the superintendent, insisting the district stop making what they call false claims.
" for neglecting your child's right to food"
So you (the district) agree that right exists? Either you're not providing food and thus you're doing the neglecting and also they don't owe you anything, or you are required to provide food regardless of payment because you're in loco parentis during the school hours. And the $450 could very likely have been used to provide food and other necessities for those kids before and after school.
If you want to charge them with neglect, you have to prove they neglected their child, not just your budget.
How the fuck is that supposed to fix anything? It's easily cheaper for the state to pay for their lunch.
Homeless people turn into cheap prison labor super easy. And foster kids become homeless so fast.
Well... Fast after they're adults. But if they're 8 years old, I wouldn't call a decade fast.
Besides the point though. You're correct, ruining people's lives is advantageous to them. Convenient scape goat for everything sucks, free labour
Chritians also love "adopting"/occasionally accidentally kidnapping the children they've helped to render desperate. The Mormons are big on this and have a whole complex system built around it. Don't take my word for it, here's a highlighted portion from a Mormon bishop's handbook:
But then someone might get some benefit from their tax dollars!
State doesn't pay for kid's lunch. If parent can't afford kid's lunch, state takes child and places them in a foster home. State pays foster home many many times the cost of lunch to take kid.
Tell me what the goal of this system is so I can call someone else a conspiracy theorist for a change.
I'm betting it's a 'hungry kids yearn for the mines earlier' sort of thing
This sounds like a great way to generate a different headline,
"Local man kills 4 in attack of school board meeting after losing his children over school lunch debt"
Sounds like a fly-over shit hole state to me.
If you want to look at this situation from an economic point of view ..... what's cheaper?
Pay a kids lunch every day for about 12-14 years .... and for a growing kid, the price wouldn't be that much, especially if you are paying in bulk amounts for hundreds or thousands of kids.
or
Don't pay their lunch, let the parents go into debt, take the kids into foster care .... now you as the government have to pay for legal expenses to take the kid away, expenses to have police and social service workers to do the work, foster expenses to house the kid and care for them (now you are having to pay for every single meal for them for years), give up the kid once they become of age and go out on their own after foster care as a disillusioned, angry and frustrated young man or woman who will more than likely end up on the street dealing drugs, crime or prostitution ... who will then grow up causing or contributing to crime and increasing the costs of police, legal, emergency health care, security and penitentiary .... and chances are they will have children who will end up at school not being able to pay for their lunch
....
If you pay to help the kid when they are young, there is more of a chance they will grow up to be a contributing healthy member of society. If you don't they will become a lifelong burden on society and cause endless expenses that will be far more money than any school lunches you could have bought when they were ten years old.
If you pay to help the kid when they are young, there is more of a chance they will grow up to be a contributing healthy member of society.
Those in power do not want a contributing healthy member of society. They want malleable, docile workers that will do as they’re told and not challenge the system.
If every American learned what citizens in other 1st world countries have that we don't, there would be a revolution tomorrow.
A lot of them know but choose to look away because "mUh FrEeDoM"
"Fuck free healthcare, education, food quality standards, safety regulations,y right to own guns is more important than all that, and fuck them (school shooting) kids"
Signed -america's "patriots"
https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/20/us/pennsylvania-school-lunch-debt-trnd
Unless this is happening again, this story is from 2019. Still bad, just not recent
I’m from this region of Pennsylvania. Abuse and bullying is protected by the culture of this region. The sheriff’s office has done mass murders against strikers in the coal fields. 1860’s I believe. This guy stepped down. But his sentiment carries far in the community. It’s a bigoted hate filled hole.
A literal gun cult is financing far right radicals into local politics. A hate group is trying to force schools to out children who say they are gay. And YouTube protects their account where they post hours of hate content.
I worked with the president of the group before. He was fired from his job because he was accused of stealing $15,000.
Unfortunately nothing new. I remember as a kid that if you didn’t have money in your lunch account, your lunch was taken away and if you were lucky they’d have a peanut butter sandwich for you.
If you were in a negative balance, such as if your parents were unable to pay, then you’d also be restricted from certain activities and pressured to make your parents pay what was owed.
Grew up with lunch debt as a kid and that headline boils my blood in ways I probably shouldn't say out loud.
And they have the nerve to ask why people aren't having kids anymore
That picture of the food is a damn feast compared to what actually gets served.
The same as debtors prison, how is that supposed to fix anything? Accomplishes literally nothing other than punishing people for being poor.
how about you start punishing companies for not paying people a livable wage?
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