Adds a lot of cred, and is a major opportunity for PSL to demonstrate how it handles pressure from the State.
Well whatever the PSL is doing is working
Exactly what I was thinking. Now I know which org is effective
The org gains an absolute fuck tonne of credibility within the left by being recognised as a legitimate threat to the state by the fucks in power. It's on the correct path.
I think this is the most evidence I’ve seen that PSL may actually start to be seen as a credible threat to the empire, and they should absolutely tell Josh Hawley to ~~come back with a warrant or~~ suck shit through a straw. I hope this doesn’t scare them into libbing out like other “leftist” orgs I don’t need to name who insist that staying on the feds’ good side is the winning strategy to overthrow capitalism.
I will never recognize the state of Missouri
Putting aside how spurious the accusation that the is financing protests probably is, since it's very common for leftist groups to get the "blame" for protests/strikes/whatever I want to make a counterpoint to the argument that this is a good thing for any organization because it gives "credibility" and would make more people join:
I think that takes the people saying they don't join political orgs because they're "suspect", "not radical enough" or "doesn't change anything" at face value. In my experience, leftists, even the most self-professed radical lenin/stalin/mao/xi profile picture guys, don't join because they don't want to actually become activists and give their time to do something that is often very boring and axe-grindish, which a lot of political work is, or they just don't want to deal with people including people who they'll disagree with often (whether inside the org or outside), they're modern atomized subjects that get their political activity buzz from social media like everyone is these days.
So ultimately this reads like it could be pretty bad for the PSL if they actually have to disclose all this stuff, because I assume that there probably were people who didn't have the discipline to watch what they're saying in internal communications, and having the state on top of you will drive people who don't want any trouble with the state away.
This isn't a reason to NOT do things that will put your org under state scrutiny, it depends on what kind of org you want to be, there are already "safe" far-left groups anyway (cpusa, dsa for example), if people want to they'll join those.
So if PSL and its members are ok with the "credibility" ie image of a possibly "dangerous" org to be in then that's fine I don't think that's an illegitimate way to go in america where there's no real institutional left to "spoil" anyway, but it probably opens up as many new problems as opportunities, for one as an example you'd have to think what kind of person joins an org they know is being persecuted, frankly it could be because they're very brave or because they're very crazy and think they're gonna get to do very crazy things.
I do not disagree with your analysis, but I do want to add a comment about the “credibility” point. In the US, I think the issue of undocumented persons is the most important issue strategically for a communist org or leftists in general to embrace. People understandably bemoan the lack of leftist support in the US. But they are also are looking at the lives of the top say 50-60% of the population. Also understandable - all of society is structured to make it seem like the middle class and wealthier is where like 95% of the population resides socioeconomically, and precarity and poverty are something only a small minority experience.
I believe there is tremendous revolutionary potential in the US, but the core of the that energy isn’t with people like myself - middle class white folks with an office job (obligatory “read Settlers”). It’s with the groups that experience super-exploitation and oppression: undocumented workers, African-Americans, LGBTQ folks, Muslim immigrants, etc. By standing in solidarity with undocumented persons, the PSL is right where it should be in terms of building trust and relationships in the communities with the most revolutionary potential.
Of course both things could be true - this could be bad for recruitment for them and also useful for their reputation.
I would definitely join PSL if this happened. Shit, I might actually join now
If what happened? If they're, like, banned or something or keep being persecuted?
If they keep being persecuted
I hope other people on the left can now recognize this as an effective org and it can build their credibility. But this might also scare people into not joining.
The UnAmerican Activities Committee is reborn!
"Engulfed Los Angeles" all like what- 10 blocks around the detention center count as the whole city now?
Engulf deez nuts, Chairman Peepee Poopoo.
To be fair, a lot of the target market for those fearmongering headlines live in place smaller than that.
Lmao and chuds want us to believe they're the ones oppressed by the state
I hope they don't lib out over this
Josh Hawley is what happens when a poor farmer, desperate to be a father, wishes upon a falling star for a son. The star, pitying the poor farmer but lacking any foresight, granted the gift of life to a wilted stalk of racist celery.
New tagline please
"democracy" lmao
Damn, now I'm gonna donate even more to the PSL.
Do they accept international donations?
Yes, how do you think we get our xi-bux
a lotta yall still don't get it
xi-bux holders can use multiple Il Sung juches on a single xi-bux
so if you have 1 comrade lenin xi-bux and 3 Il Sung juches you can create 3 new xi-bux
Tonight's Il Sung juche mint event is essentially a minting event for both PLS Donors and PLA Special Forces
Yes the day after Trump was elected how very pointed Mr. Committee on UnAmerican Activities who represent Missouri and sticking his nose in California's buisness. (Then again....
PSL you are now a threat to fascism. Give them nothing.
godspeed the PSL
I hope nobody from the PSL goes to any sort of hearing like this just to get arrested. Like, again, the civil war has already begun, any response to this needs to come from deep within the Appalachian or rocky mountains
The Appalachian Insurgency will be our most enduring warriors.
Me, cooking bread, doing domestic terrorism apparently? On my hyper illegal arc as a communist trans woman
When are we going to get an :its-afraid: emote
Donor lists, yikes
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Maybe we should ban the republicans for all the school shooters
That's not terrorism sweaty those are lone wolves
A pack of lone wolves
If there’s so many lone wolfs then why can’t I get a wolf-gf
I hope whoever received this letter frames it and hangs it up.
Guess we're all on the watch list.
You weren't already? 🥴
hope they don't plan shit in e mails and chatlogs
of course they do. us comrades will have to figure out for all of us how to work underground in a surveillance state. i hope your internet privacy paranoia is up to date.
moving up in the world
They are one of the coolest ones around.
Was Communist Party USA ever banned during its run?
Yes but I think the ban was repealed or remains unenforced because it's unconstitutional or something.
chapotraphouse
Banned? DM Wmill to appeal.
No anti-nautilism posts. See: Eco-fascism Primer
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