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submitted 3 days ago by avidamoeba@lemmy.ca to c/canada@lemmy.ca

It's nice to see that we no longer trust privatization as a the magic wand that solves public institution problems.

That said I think the 52% support for non-union gig work in Canada Post is indicative of the mindset that needs shifting if Canada is to change course in a way that makes most people better off long term.

Source: https://angusreid.org/canada-post-privatization-strike-service-disruption-vote-union/

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[-] wise_pancake@lemmy.ca 80 points 3 days ago

Yeah fuck the idea of bringing in “gig” workers.

Using Gig workers is basically saying “at will employment isn’t shitty enough”

If you need staff employ them.

I’m fine with 3 day a week mail. Even 2 days a week. But I’ll have no part of that gig economy bullshit.

[-] zipzoopaboop@lemmynsfw.com 27 points 3 days ago

It's a service, not a business.

Fuck

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[-] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 58 points 3 days ago

Reduce mail to 3 days a week.

TBH, if it avoids privatization and saves money, I'd be happy getting mail even once a week. Nothing we get by mail is so urgent that a few extra days will destroy lives.

In cases where something is needed urgently, there's courier, express mail, etc. as premium options. Regular "snail mail" isn't meant to be fast.

[-] saigot@lemmy.ca 18 points 3 days ago

When public services are kneecapped to be worse than their private equivalent then people stop using them and then they turn private.

[-] BCsven@lemmy.ca 8 points 3 days ago

UK enters the chat with mail delivery 2x a day

[-] HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 days ago

Adding to the above, keep in mind that courier and express mail are useless if you live in small towns with distance to the nearest large city.

I've had express mail take longer to get to me than regular mail does simply because that's how the system is set up.

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[-] bstix@feddit.dk 12 points 2 days ago

The postal service in Denmark was opened in 1624.

It was privatized in 2009. It will shut down at the end of 2025.

[-] Croquette@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 days ago

Classic capitalism. Peak efficiency

[-] rekabis@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 days ago

38% of people hate their communities, and want everyone but the wealthy to suffer for the crime of being poor.

A fair proportion of our population have been absolutely hoodwinked and brainwashed by the snake-oil promises of conservatism and capitalism, both of which serve only the wealthiest 1%.

[-] Ulrich_the_Old@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 days ago

Canada post is a service not a business. It should never be privatized.

[-] FreeBooteR69@lemmy.ca 40 points 3 days ago

38% of people are brain dead.

[-] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 31 points 3 days ago

More like indoctrinated into self-harming beliefs. No one is born with an opinion or understanding on privatization. 🥹

[-] HikingVet@lemmy.ca 42 points 3 days ago

This is worrying, even with the majority not wanting privatization.

[-] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 14 points 3 days ago

Yeah. An older report by Angus Reid from 2019 cited here says that about 60% did not support privatization. That would put privatization support at the time at 40-something, since the union would like to make the opposite number as large as possible. So there's perhaps some trend away from privatization.

[-] wise_pancake@lemmy.ca 13 points 3 days ago

Lately I think the number of low IQ people has increased from ~15% to 30%

Since COVID people have been significantly stupider.

[-] Max_P@lemmy.max-p.me 9 points 3 days ago

I think it's also made much more apparent when that demographic that had no interest in computers were forced to be chronically online due to the lockdowns and quickly found the anti-vaxx groups, and suddenly felt like their opinion matters and that everyone is an expert if they do a little bit of "research".

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[-] SplashJackson@lemmy.ca 21 points 3 days ago

38 percent should go fuck themselves!

[-] MyMotherIsAHamster@lemmy.ca 25 points 3 days ago

That's a terrible fucking idea.

[-] rowrowrowyourboat@sh.itjust.works 23 points 3 days ago

Isn't that about the same percentage that vote conservative every election?

[-] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 9 points 3 days ago

Thereabouts but don't be fooled, this number is spread across parties. Undoubtedly heavily weighted towards the conservative parties but if there's a breakdown you'd probably see a non insignificant proportion in the other parties.

[-] nyan@lemmy.cafe 7 points 3 days ago

The original article contains some statistics by party, and yes, there is a correlation between voting Conservative and not wanting to fund Canada Post. Other correlations: rural people tend to support funding Canada Post, people who seldom or never receive mail tend not to. (The rural and Conservative tendencies are going to pull in opposite directions for a fair number of people.) I wouldn't be surprised to discover that there's also a correlation with income brackets, but they don't seem to have collected that information.

[-] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 6 points 3 days ago

In case anyone wants to see some of the breakdown.

[-] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 8 points 3 days ago

38% of Canadians have obviously never used Purcolator, our last attempt at privatization.

And if you tried to use Purcolator and they couldn't find your house for pickup, that counts.

[-] brax@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

"Purcolator" 😂

[-] grte@lemmy.ca 12 points 3 days ago

Majority support for non union gig workers? Allow me to present my middle finger you no solidarity having, short-sighted worthless fucks.

[-] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 days ago

Unless it's for packages does anyone really need junk-mail delivery every day?

Most stuff has like a month for paying off statements and whatnot.

[-] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago

Here in Ireland, the government postal service diversified and now also provides financial services to remain relevant and liquid. You can set up a current account with them, or withdraw cash through a post office if you already have an existing current account with another bank. I think An Post also allows you to buy bonds. They have also even entered mobile carrier service.

Other postal service in many parts of the world should follow the same model to remain relevant. These new additional and modernised services would be beneficial to serve remote communities not easily covered by mobile carriers, banking institutions and/or still rely on traditional mail service.

[-] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 5 points 3 days ago

The Canada Post workers union has literally suggested some if not all of this.

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[-] Ulrich_the_Old@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 days ago

If this is true then 38% should be deported to texas and we can bring in more immigrants to take their place.

[-] NGnius@lemmy.ca 9 points 3 days ago

Interesting, if a bit tangential, that 72% support reducing delivery frequency while Canada Post is trying to increase delivery frequency by doing weekend deliveries.

Personally, I don't understand how many things can be so urgent that it's profitable to deliver as frequently as possible. Surely a single specialised courier for critically fast deliveries (e.g. life saving medicine) would entirely saturate the market.

Such a dumb and badly run country.

Every TTC subway stop should have a post office in it. The TTC should be run 24hrs a day. You should be able to pick up your package at the post office within the TTC subway stop easily.

Post offices within the GTHA really should be walking distance for most people. Go pick your package up somewhere close by, open 24hrs.

Putting post offices in Shoppers Drug Mart isn't too bad, but it would be better if they where in 24hr donought shops.

We need to use community postal boxes more.

We need traffic cameras to automatically ticket couriers that block traffic.

We need to get ride of this 'independent contractor' nonsense. It's a scam.

But for this to happen the Fed/Prov/City and Crown Corps all need to work together...so it'll never happen.

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[-] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 days ago

Privatization in general doesn't need to be a disaster either as long as good rules are setup, allowing and pushing for competition.

Any core functions for a country (you know, water, electricity, internet) should be under much, much harsher rules to ensure people get good quality of whatever the service is

Internet, for example, is a shitshow in Canada. I'll get twice more for twice less in Mexico with less interruption. Yes, Rogers, you incompetent idiots, I'm looking at you. Telus isn't much better but at least slightly more competent on average

[-] obvs@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago

You can tell what position a publication supports when they describe slightly more than a third as if it was a majority.

[-] Crashumbc@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago
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