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Tulsi Gabbard left no doubt when she testified to Congress about Iran’s nuclear program earlier this year.

The country was not building a nuclear weapon, the national intelligence director told lawmakers, and its supreme leader had not reauthorized the dormant program even though it had enriched uranium to higher levels.

But Donald Trump dismissed the assessment of U.S. spy agencies during an overnight flight back to Washington as he cut short his trip to the Group of Seven summit to focus on the escalating conflict between Israel and Iran.

“I don’t care what she said,” Trump told reporters. In his view, Iran was “very close” to having a nuclear bomb.

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[-] FistingEnthusiast@lemmynsfw.com 72 points 1 week ago

He's an idiot who has never been able to distinguish between his fantasies and reality

He's spent a lifetime making shit up, and never being held to account for it

He's a child, and what's worse, he has dementia.

He also lies as easily as he breathes. Truth means nothing to him. He sees being honest as a weakness

[-] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 32 points 1 week ago

Just the person to entrust the most powerful military of the world with.

[-] dhork@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago

"But what choice do we have? Entrust the military to a lady? We'll take the dementia-addled toddler instead"

[-] FistingEnthusiast@lemmynsfw.com 11 points 1 week ago

Don't forget that under the orange paint, he's white

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[-] lemmylommy@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

He is. She is a Russian asset.

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[-] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 38 points 1 week ago

why tf would a fascist dictator give a rat's ass about "reasons" to plunge multiple countries into war? he wants war, that's what's going to happen

[-] cyrano@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 week ago

Tbh this is not specific to trump. Gulf wars happened the same way.

[-] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 week ago

the difference is bush 1 & 2 made an effort to convince everyone their bullshit wars were justified. diaper fascist is literally saying "don't care"

the thing that'll shock me is if we're NOT at war within a month

[-] cyrano@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 week ago
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[-] VeryInterestingTable@jlai.lu 25 points 1 week ago

First, weaken the commercial aviation in your country. Second, start calling everything terrorism. Third, start yet another war in the middle east.

Your guy is desperately looking for another 911.

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[-] Plebcouncilman@sh.itjust.works 20 points 1 week ago

Are we now choosing to believe what Tulsi says because it fits the narrative?

[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago

The alternative is believing Israel's government...

And they're an openly genocidal far right government made up of violent religious extremists...

Like, America is bad right now

But Israel has been on some straight up Nazi shit for a while now, because both Biden and Trump let Israel do whatever

Saying Iran isn't building nukes is the most pushback Israel has gotten since Obama was in office

[-] RedditIsDeddit@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

Donald Trump is doing nazi shit all the same

[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

He's doing horrible shit...

But he hasn't been actively committing a genocide like Israel has.

If you think trump is doing as bad of shit as Israel. You don't know what the fuck you're talking about.

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[-] octopus_ink@slrpnk.net 4 points 1 week ago

If Trump doesn't believe her, then even from his demented perspective she shouldn't have the job. So which is it Donald? Does she ah, merit her position of authority and influence, or does she not?

[-] cyrano@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 1 week ago
[-] fluxion@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago

I wouldn't tryst Gabbard on this either since she's very likely a Russian agent and Iran is a partner to their war efforts.

[-] dhork@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

On the bright side, though, if Russia is actively covering for Iran and Trump is aligning against that, then Putin might finally decide Trump has outlived his usefulness as an asset and send Trump some of his special tea....

[-] fluxion@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

Russia only cared slightly, Trump blocked Russian sanctions already passed by Congress and stepped in to stop Ukrainian attacks on Russian oil and Russia will not burn such an asset for a minor partner catching this kind of heat (or any partner, since they "don't have the cards" as Trump would say if he wasn't a complete pushover for Putin)

[-] OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 week ago

That's fine. Iraq didn't have WMDs either. They just need a lie to sell it to the public.

[-] xyzzy@lemm.ee 14 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

In [Trump's] view, Iran was “very close” to having a nuclear bomb.

Those are clearly Netanyahu's words in his mouth. Netanyahu has been loudly and confidently saying that at regular intervals since 2012. Iran is always weeks away.

[-] Breezy@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

At the same time Isreal is like the only country that probably has nukes yet refuses to acknowledge it.

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[-] Kaput@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago

We have irrefutable proof, that we can't show you, that Iran is stoning babies in the incubators with yellow cake.

[-] FreakinSteve@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago

Not only is trump ignoring this, but lots and lots of shitlibs on this site are also.

[-] peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 11 points 1 week ago

This whole thing still has me scratching my head.

Such a large portion of the West gets a raging boner about coming to Israel's aide. I get it from the strange doomsday cult belief where something about Israel at war triggers the rapture or some shit. But I don't really believe that's what the western world leaders actually believe.

Trump has his own reality, and only a divine entity understands what's going on in the space between his ears.

Ignoring Trump and the doomsday cult thing, the other things I can think of:

  1. US and Europe want an established western sympathizing military power in the middle-east. Some sort of remnant of the Cold war.

  2. US and Europe want a military western sympathizing military power with close proximity to the Suez Canal and red Sea, as well as the Mediterranean.

  3. The "Sampson Option" that Israel has is completely legitimate and Israel is ready to obliterate everyone if they don't get their way.

  4. There's some economic or strategic value the West won't acknowledge.

Even with all that, attack Iran? Iran is not remotely similar to Iraq. Iran will put up much more of a fight. It also won't be a "forever war" like fascists dream about.

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[-] tonytins@pawb.social 10 points 1 week ago

The more he dismiss America's intelligence agencies, the more i believe them.

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[-] wirebeads@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 week ago

America loves war. Simple as that. Bushes weapons of mass destruction was a guarantee that other nations had destructive weapons when they didn’t, but was motivation to get into a conflict that had nothing, zero, nada, zilch to to with the original reason of invading in the first place (911)

America is a disgusting whore of war. Actually they are good at starting a war, but similar to almost every man over 60, they have a hard time finishing, pull out, and leave the host to clean up their mess.

[-] Englishgrinn@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 week ago

The truth doesn't really matter. Israel will get their war, and the US will lumber into it behind them.

What's crazy to me is apparently the US has become so polarized, so used to division that pointing out Israel is acting like bloodthirsty psychos is somehow supporting Iran, or Hamas before that. It's like their whole culture has evaporated any nuance at all. Only diametrically opposed good and evil battling forever. Professional wrestling stories with Heels and Faces divided by clear black lines.

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[-] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 week ago

Trump has always shown us he doesn't need intelligence.

[-] wanderwisley@lemm.ee 8 points 1 week ago

So we are gonna do the Iraq WMD lie again huh?

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

People still believe Iraq had WMDs to this day.

[-] ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one 4 points 1 week ago

This season's twist is that the Intelligence community is claiming that there is no weapons. Unless the Intelligence community is doing reverse psychological on us.

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[-] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

yeeeah... shrug, Trump ignores them all. And why shouldn't he? They didn't prevent him from happening, what's the point of the CIA, NSA etc when they either knew about him & putin, and let hit happen, or, they didn't know, even though it's been obvious since the 80s?

Nice job Intel community, you shot us all in the face.

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[-] Robotsandstuff@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

We have done this dance before last time it cost me my 20s my sanity and most importantly a huge amount for friends I loved like brothers who died before and are still killing then selfs..

[-] rayyy@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

Quick, dust off the "weapons of mass destruction" propaganda.

[-] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

The moron just wants the war to hide his shenaningans at home. Sole reason. Everyone should know by now that he automatically denies any and every thing that runs contrary to his own personal narrative.

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[-] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

weapons of mass destruction?

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