There're still older Civilizations I haven't played so I'm not worried
I'm 55, and this is my retirement plan.
I wouldn't say it's my plan, but it's an option I'm keeping in account
Mine is more 'why bother when inflation will eat the value away'
Have you heard of the stock market? /jk
Why JK though? There are many financial options to at least get more returns than inflation, working for people without fuck you money too. It takes some financial education that we likely have to learn ourselves, but there are options. And it's possible to reasonably lower risks and costs enough by selecting the right financial products.
Though obviously, if you just buy what the bank guy says, the bank will make the profits, not you.
While I agree with you, most people don't want to spend the time learning all of this. Furthermore, I had the luck of good financial education and I had to wade through a sea of rubbish just to get to the good bits. But as someone who's new, how do you learn? That's the problem. And even if they could learn, how are they going to start saving? Is the supermarket cashier just making ends meet by a hair's length really going to start saving up thousands and thousands of quid just to be able to see some real returns? Don't hate the player, hate the game. You have too little money to start making some real returns. And because you have no real returns, you need to work for menial tasks and menial money. And therefore, you cannot start saving up and make some real returns, the cycle is complete. What a nice system that we put our lives inside of.
In another screenshot I once read "my retirement plan is to die in the socialist revolution" and I think that's exactly what I hope for
That's been my plan for years, but now it's morphed into something more like, "my retirement plan is to die in the American underground fighting the local Nazis."
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Someone else just as bad would replace him. It's supported by public sentiment, he was voted in.
I don't think you'll find anyone with Trump's "charisma" that quickly who would appeal to the MAGA crowd in the same way. Of course, I could be wrong about that.
There's a part of me that agrees, trump has a wild hold on the maga crowd. Buuuuut I also have trouble thinking of something that would make it easier for some non trump to channel that same energy than an assassination.
I think there would be a civil war first and then a new system would be established if the USA didn't splinter. It would initially be worse in terms of violence, but in the long term the fascism that Trump imposes will be more brutal. However, Russia, China, North Korea, etc. would take direct advantage of these circumstances. It's all just absolute shit.
Trump has as much charisma as a chewed bubble gum. I don’t understand why that many people voted him. Twice.
Because they were told that Trump would protect them against all of the bad things that Trump's backers were blasting into their brains 24/7 via social media and partisan 'news' organizations.
Ignorance and disinformation did way more work that Trump's charisma which is, as you've said, lacking
It would create a power vacuum, and the traditional constitutional democratic norms and processes have already been destroyed.
So it would be a literal bloodbath.
And it probably would not end well for America.
Mine is more “I don’t plan to live that long anyway”
I'm putting my trust in my bottle cap collection.
Don’t worry. They gonna raise the retirement age.
I've been hoping for that big EMP from the sun I keep getting told about.
Or the poles swapping.
With Germans?
Yeah, let Poland invade someone for once!
Got plenty in my retirement pot, but I've been saving up bottle caps just in case.
So it's people like you who's caps we'll mysteriously find inside of a pre-war safe??
Societal collapse or probable future health issues, either way (or both)
Civilization is resilient
It wont end just because of a couple problems that could kill billions of people
Honestly, true.
We are indeed going to face massive, catastrophic changes to society broadly.
But they will take place over such timespans that most people are just going to get used to things being shitty and the death-tolls from storms, flooding, starvation, forced-migration... it will just be more dull noise in the background for decades and decades.
The "nothing ever happens" shitheads are in the middle of things happening, but our attention-spans have been so thoroughly eroded that people don't think anything is real unless it literally shakes them out of their bed.
I had a conversation with an older dude this May. It was +30°C in Germany and Germany doesn't really do air conditioning. The older dude, while sweating bullets, was telling me that we don't need to do air conditioning because we rarely have high temperatures.
It was +30°C in May. It was +30°C in May for the last 10 years. I think that dude will die of heatsroke, and till his very end he will believe that nothing ever happens and things are exactly the same as they were when he was a child.
Well, we do air conditioning more and more nowadays...
People also have this idea that collapse is this overnight thing, like a zombie apocalypse. But while that does sometimes happen historically, a gradual degradation is much more common and realistic. What that actually looks like on the ground is just a general decline in the standard of living all around. In an advanced capitalist economy, we rarely have actual shortages, where the supply of goods simply runs out. Rather, whenever the supply of anything gets tight, the price soars until demand drops.
As things degrade, everything's just going to become ever more expensive. People used to eating beef will have to switch to chicken. Then they'll switch to tofu. Eventually just rice and beans. And as prices rise, the world's poorest, a few million at a time, will find that they can't even afford rice and beans, and no one will be able to afford to give them food aid either.
Housing will gradually become ever-more expensive. We have a finite capacity to construct housing. And as natural disasters destroy more and more homes and infrastructure, we have to spend more and more of that finite capacity just rebuilding what we've lost, rather than constructing new homes. This drives the cost up ever-higher. People switch from owning their home, to renting an apartment, to living with roommates, to abandoning the nuclear family entirely and living in large extended households again.
This is what collapse actually looks like. Prices on everything slowly rise until we look around and realize that the global population has been cut in half by starvation and all but the riches survivors are living in penury.
I plan to die fighting for the revolution.
My retirement plan is to suicide bomb some government structure.
Hopefully I'll be dead by 65
So your saying your well on your way then..
Narrator: It didn't.
The retweeters went on to live in an even more dystopian future where money still exists, but with no savings to endure a strike.
Have fatal illness. 2 or so years left. Suckers!
I admire that you've got a sense of humour about it. How are you holding up?
the drugs are still sort of working.
If so 2 years later would you like to not miss a fascist dictator?
that just sounds like bad financial discipline with extra steps
The true hope is a horizontal power structure.
I just want to live long enough to fuck an alien
When we met with a financial advisor to interview her to find out if we wanted to work with her, I told her that I'm doing this because I know it's the right thing to do, not because I think we have any future.
65? 65?!? My expected retirement age is 7-goddamn-2 and considering that's in the 2050s shit could happen to that plan in the meantime....
well.. certainly not in so many words. but I definitely don't expect to get that old.
I'll look pretty dumb if it should happen.
If you're right, you won't know it, but if you're wrong..
One of my saving graces with being born into a time where retirement seems to become a myth for my generation and younger, is that I really like working. I look to my mom who has failed at retiring 6 or 7 times at this point and I just know that that will be me if I live that long. I dunno if I could ever sit back and be like "I have done my part, now I get to chill until I die".
I would honest to God become suicidally depressed, and holy hell am I glad my brain is wired like that because feeling the opposite way in this current state of the western world must be a nightmare. If you hate your job and hate working and just want to be able to retire someday but you most likely never will due to the state of the world, I feel so fucking sorry for you. That sucks.
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