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[-] randamumaki@lemmy.blahaj.zone 65 points 1 month ago

That looks like a gang, operates like a gang, and should be kicked off of the turf of any self-respecting gang, imho.

[-] Delphia@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago

Honestly where the fuck are the gangbangers in all this? All that talk about fuck the police and how hard they are and all and there hasnt been one incidence of ICE being rolled up on by the westside crips.

[-] WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago

Forget gangbangers. Protesters and activists should dress like ICE agents. Law enforcement are supposed to wear uniforms for two vital reasons:

  1. So civilians can know who is legitimate law enforcement.

  2. So law enforcement can know who is legitimate law enforcement.

ICE doesn't give a shit about (1), as they figure they have enough fire power to kill anyone who tries to arrest or assault them for dressing up like thugs. But they've completely forgotten about (2), and in the process have made themselves incredibly vulnerable to nonviolent protest and disruption.

Forget holding signs. ICE has been rapidly expanded. Not only have the ranks swelled, but all sorts of people like militia members and bounty hunters have been deputized. Which means that not even the ICE agents on the ground are going to know who all is a member of ICE. They're all wearing masks anyway.

In the heat of the moment, ICE agents don't have any way of telling who an ICE agent is.

Forget holding up signs in protest. What really needs to happen is for every ICE raid to be swarmed by dozens of fake ICE agents. Normally using this tactic on law enforcement would be impersonating a police officer. But since ICE aren't wearing uniforms, there's nothing to impersonate!

Imagine if every ICE raid was accompanied by dozens randos showing up and just getting in the way and causing chaos. Show up dressed as masked ICE thugs. Collect some of the immigrants being detained, put them in your own unmarked cars, and let them go a few miles away. Walk into a raid site like you own the place and are meant to be there. Then start taking up space, giving contradictory orders, standing in doorways, just generally causing any kind of nonviolent chaos you can think of. Turn their whole raid into a giant shit show of a circus.

It's time to weaponize ICE's lack of identification. They don't ID themselves to avoid accountability. But it's time they were reminded of exactly why officers started wearing uniforms in the first place.

[-] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

That's because ICE are cowards. Wouldn't be surprised if they're purposefully leaving areas under direct gang control alone.

[-] GrumpyDuckling@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

They're goal is fear and intimidation. They are going to every area and doing one or two workplace arrrests so that nobody feels safe. They're not actually ready for a coordinated resistance. No cops are actually trained for anything like that.

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[-] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago

I used to think I liked monopoly busting

Until they busted up the state's monopoly on violence

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[-] UltraMagnus0001@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

It's probably proud boys and their affiliates. Remember, they had meetings before the last Insurrection.

[-] randamumaki@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 month ago

So, a gang of white supremacists.

[-] Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 54 points 1 month ago

There's like no difference between them and these guys.

[-] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago

Yes there is, I can see these guys’ eyes.

[-] AcidicBasicGlitch@lemm.ee 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

ICEis doesn't look like they would be as agile on the monkey bars. So, checkmate.

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[-] sramder@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago

Eh… homie needs to watch Mad Max again —any of them. But I’ll still give him 2 points for trying to be clever.

[-] breecher@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 month ago

Yeah, a reference to Steven Seagal movies would have been more poignant.

[-] sramder@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

I feel like he sent them the scarves but the rest of those outfits are just sad… “Can I get a pair of tan pants in a size 45x80 even though I’m 4-foot-nothing? I want to look like an elephant that just ODed on estrogen pills fam!”

Honestly I think they were LARPING as protesters or something but stopped for second donuts and didn’t get first pick from the costume department… or whatever they call their equipment room.

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[-] Denjin@lemmings.world 10 points 1 month ago

Where's the well regulated militia you Americans scream about so loudly when someone suggests not letting a mentally ill child own an assault rifle?

Isn't this exactly the government tyranny that argument is used to defend against?

[-] Evotech@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

I think they’re the same people that are locking up random immigrants

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[-] SpookyBogMonster@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 month ago

Where's the well regulated militia you Americans scream about

So, one could argue that the well regulated militia in question is constituted by the National Guard, as they nominally are the armed forces of individual States, and can be nationalized under certain circumstances.

Except for the fact that Trump just nationalized the California National Guard when he's nominally not supposed to....

[-] echodot@feddit.uk 4 points 1 month ago

The way the legal system in the US works is just incredible. There are things that are very much illegal, but if the president does them apparently everyone is just fine with it.

[-] Triasha@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

The majority of citizens are not "fine" with it, we are watching the results of the capture of every branch of government.

The template for this actually played out in Texas. Texas has a very weak governors office in terms of formal powers. Under George W Bush the Republican party systematically took control of each state office and coordinated their efforts to effect the agenda of Bush, Perry, and now Abbott.

They are doing the same thing at the federal level with project 2025 under Trump, they took the supreme court, and now they have removed the career civil servants that would refuse illegal orders from Trump.

If history of other dictatorships is any guide the powers of ICE will be expanded steadily and the other law enforcement agencies and military will be continually overshadowed by ICE and eventually subordinated to them, like the Republican guard of Iran or the SS in Nazi Germany.

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[-] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

They're too busy gargling republican boot to bother rising up against the tyranny they've cried about for decades.

To a unnerving amount of people's surprise, they only cared about the power of the state when they thought it was being used improperly (having a tolerant democracy), and are more than happy to see it used the way they want (hurting brown people)

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[-] echodot@feddit.uk 9 points 1 month ago

Oh so they can breathe through those masks. Isn't it strange how it was difficult for them 4 years ago but now they're totally fine with it.

[-] Lemminary@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Tbf, the mask is a bigger inconvenience when you're picking up veggies from the food isle than when chasing down migrants while hoping over a couple of fences. Don't your see? The aerodynamic design of the mask will...

[-] NerfHerder@lemm.ee 9 points 1 month ago

Why aren't masked and armed individuals with weapons and no badges, that make attempts to abduct people, being shot?

Never have I hoped the L.A street gangs just take this matter into their own hands

[-] Grimtuck@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

Because the whole second amendment thing was about carrying a gun in the hope that you get to shoot a black person, a school kid or a teacher.

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[-] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

Yeah, what's happening definitely requires exercising second amendment rights. And yet Americans are still mostly mum. Dumbing down Americans by the oligarchs paid off I guess.

[-] sxan@midwest.social 3 points 1 month ago

I feel safe in my house, but I didn't reacquire my concealed carry permit when I moved states, mostly because I almost never carried in all the years I had it.

I really need to get off my ass and complete the requirements in this new state and get that permit.

[-] Anomalocaris@lemm.ee 7 points 1 month ago

I can't wait for the trial about it gunning them down is self defense,

if it is a trump appointed judge, then it will clearly be considered illegal, which mean the whole point of 2nd amendment (defend against a tryranic government is BS)

or reasonable judge, which will determine it is self defence, then let the fun begin.

[-] teslasaur@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Buy some guns and do it to them then.

It's America

[-] WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I mean, honestly, even without violence, this would be a fantastic protest technique. Imagine if whenever there was an ICE raid, there were hundreds of people dressed indistinguishably from the ICE thugs. Normally this doesn't work at protests. If you put on a fake LAPD uniform, they'll arrest you for impersonating a police officer. But since these thugs aren't in uniform, then you're not impersonating an officer by dressing like them.

"ICE thug" should be the standard uniform for every protester. Watch as their raids collapse into absolute chaos as they can't figure out who is actually on their team. Watch as the police thugs escorting ICE get completely confused as they don't know who to shoot their rubber bullets and tear gas at. Just imagine protesters milling about in active raid scenes, walking in like they own the place, giving contradictory orders to ICE foot soldiers, etc. Hell, the protesters could "detain" many of the people being seized, load them into unmarked vans, drive them a mile away, and then just let them go.

This can be weaponized, all without using actual weapons. Protesters could dress up like these ICE thugs and completely destroy their operations. ICE have forgotten that cops wear uniforms not just to protect the public, but also so that cops can tell who is actually a police officer.

It's time ICE learned exactly why police wear uniforms. By not wearing uniforms, they've made themselves comically vulnerable to mass disruption by nonviolent protesters. They've completely destroyed their own chain of command, and they are vulnerable.

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[-] Triasha@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

We should respond to these people as what they are, domestic terrorists.

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[-] BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz 5 points 1 month ago

Masked armed men in edgy outfits ? A stadium ? They're Barghest !

Nice Cyberpunk reference. ^^

[-] imposedsensation@lemmynsfw.com 5 points 1 month ago

Stand your ground, Pubs love that shit... Be the good guy with the gun brah

[-] Geodad@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

My Army training would kick in, and I would shoot the terrorists.

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[-] IsThisAnAI@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

If someone comes and tries to take you or those around you, defend yourself.

Get a handgun, get a CCW and learn how to defend those you love.

There are more of you than them.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

They will be doing this to citizens standing in line to vote.

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[-] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 month ago

Isn't it the job of the opposition party at this point to propose legislation that outlaws this practice? To run candidates on a platform of reigning in these abuses? To run ads with scary music saying how the government is infringing on liberties etc?

Rural Republicans already fear three letter federal agencies: BLM, ATF, etc. Play to their fears, this very low hanging fruit, Democrats.

[-] klugerama@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

California "No Secret Police Act" introduced, would ban police from covering their faces - CBS San Francisco https://share.google/yBJZoO8cseW6R5mc9

Also: https://youtu.be/j7SOc_8IhSY

[-] Cocopanda@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Going to be fun putting all these monsters on trial after Trump is gone.

[-] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Honey, trials don't convict fascists. That's a fundamental misunderstanding of law.

Fucking shiro ishi ended uo dean of tokyo medical school. Nobotsuke kishi's dynasty only ended when some guy killed his grandson with a home made electric shotgun. Most of the italian fascists, aside from Mussolini, who notably did not get a trial, ended uo employed by the cia.

Germany wasn't much better.

You don't give nazis trials.

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[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Going to be fun putting all these monsters on trial

Gonna be fun watching democrats be like "trust the system! the wheels of justice turn slowly!" until it's too late. Again.

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[-] notsure@fedia.io 2 points 1 month ago

…little people inside big costumes…

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