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Image finally uploaded. Sorry about that.

[Edit. Fixed the headline a bit, due to my poor phrasing]

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[-] yesman@lemmy.world 21 points 6 months ago

This isn't cooperation, this is rivalry. The point is for you to use Edge instead of Chrome.

Just another skirmish in the war for what matters most: which tech-giant is the default choice.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 9 points 6 months ago

which tech-giant is the default choice

Meanwhile, on Lemmy, I suffer under the tyranny of Big Penguin

[-] Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 6 months ago

Big penguin is no joke. Just last week a penguin busted down my front door and forced me to compile my own kernel from source!

Did he tell you he used Arch?

[-] dubyakay@lemmy.ca 6 points 6 months ago

Arch users rarely compile their own kernels, silly.

I use Arch btw.

[-] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 1 points 6 months ago

Did he have a beard?

[-] msage@programming.dev 1 points 6 months ago

I use Gentoo, btw.

Yes, I build the kernel myself.

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[-] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 1 points 6 months ago

You mean, chromium-based browser vs. chromium-based browser?

I know, it's about data mining (don't call it telemetry), but still. Funny. I bet they didn't even remove all Google links from the source code.

[-] lazynooblet@lazysoci.al 1 points 6 months ago

Yeah exactly this. But the bandwagon has left the station at this point.

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[-] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 14 points 6 months ago

People will complain about everything, but never just switch to Firefox, huh? You can't be helped then. There is just the one browser (and a couple of forks of it).

[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 1 points 6 months ago

That wouldn't help anything since the problem is Microsoft forcing Edge

[-] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 8 points 6 months ago

Booted my desktop since my work computers windows and I game mostly on my steam deck, and holy shit is Manjaro fast as hell compared to windows in 2025. Like I'm so used to clicking and waiting and in Manjaro you click and it's just there.

Man fuck windows.

[-] alsimoneau@lemmy.ca 5 points 6 months ago

Yeah, just started using W11 for work and it's insane how often I need to wait for character to buffer in after I typed something.

I shouldn't be faster than my computer in this day and age, and yet here we are.

[-] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 0 points 6 months ago

I'm currently horrified how my (IT illiterate) employer said we need to update all our 20+ laptops to Win11 now. Consumer laptops that barely run Win10.

To be clear, I'm not the IT guy here, though I do sometimes help out.

[-] 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 1 points 6 months ago

Same boat here. W10 is EOL. A crapton of good-enough laptops are about to go into the landfills all over your world. What a disgrace.

[-] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 1 points 6 months ago

Yeah. Or they'll go through with it, and then realize later that they "need" to buy new ones.

Maybe I can still convince them to switch to Linux. We're not dependent on any MS or Windows only products.

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[-] brax@sh.itjust.works 5 points 6 months ago

Edge has been Chromium based for a while now. Hell, a lot of the 365 stuff will only work in Edge or Chrome.

It's wild how corporations are so openly cool with paying license fees to give everything away to Microsoft.

I would have told them to pound sand as soon as they tried to push the 365 and Azure shit if I was a business.

[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 4 points 6 months ago

I doubt that

I wouldn't be surprised if Google doesn't consent to any of this

[-] gofsckyourself@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago

Microsoft is is bed with Google now,
[Edit. Fixed the headline a bit, due to my poor phrasing]

lol

[-] FrostyPolicy@suppo.fi 4 points 6 months ago

A solution is not to use any product, service or software made by MS or google.

[-] 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Not a choice in most business settings. Windows servers, Microsoft cloud, Windows workstations, and a 365 to complement. You have a better, equally integrated solution? Because, if so, I'd love to hear it.

Edit. I'm being serious. I'd love to hear it. If it meets the needs of my employer, I'll pitch it. I have some pull. Who knows... it may work.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

You have a better, equally integrated solution?

I mean, we do. Linux OS, Libre Office, Apache servers, Linux Cloud Service of Choice, PostgreSQL.

But you need techs familiar with those systems and businesses eager to implement Linux at a foundational level early on in the company's development. Because a lot of businesses outsource their IT early on, and because a lot of end-user hardware has Microsoft pre-installed, and because the major IT outsourcers all get big kickbacks from Microsoft to be the default solutions, and because Microsoft has embedded itself at the university level at a global scale, and because Microsoft has successfully lobbied itself as the premier US contractor of choice for federal and state IT setups, it can be harder to find professionals willing and able to configure a Linux environment. This is assuming the company founders even think to ask for alternatives.

That's not to say it never happens. FFS, some of the biggest competitors to Microsoft - Amazon and Google most notably - have relied on Linux/PostgreSQL architecture to keep their overhead low and their integrations non-exclusive. But they're exceptional precisely because they laid the groundwork early.

The problem isn't that integrated solutions don't exist. The problem is that most CTOs don't embrace them early on in the company's development and find themselves trapped in the Microsoft ecosystem well after the point a transition would be easy.

[-] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

I'm transitioning my (very small) office to OnlyOffice and OwnCloud this summer. I have a lot of autonomy so I can basically just make the decision.

I'm choosing OnlyOffice over LibreOffice because it's a more similar to 360 an I will have to help the staff with very little tech literacy through the transition.

We're not ready to transition the OS just yet (and may not be able to), but as the hardware ages, we may change over some of the less essential systems. Probably Ubuntu or Zorin.

[-] 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 1 points 6 months ago

Very cool! I hope it's a successful change.

Look into onlyoffice. Last I heard, it was Russian based software, so it might be risky. It might not be, though.

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[-] some_random_nick@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

To put it into perspective: if Leibniz was right and this is truely the best of all worlds, be happy that you don't live in any of the other, more shittier timelines. Like the one where Apple sells monitor stands for $1000. Oh, wait...

[-] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 2 points 6 months ago

What am I missing, hasn't this been around for like months and months now?

[-] 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 1 points 6 months ago

Came to 11 pro during last week's updates.

[-] Valmond@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

True or not, I'm one email away from total freedom.

Just wonder about anti spam measures.

[-] ForgottenUsername@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

How can we be sure this is genuine? I can see there is an opt out option. Thats very unMicrosoft like

😭

[-] 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 0 points 6 months ago

What's the opt-out? "Continue without"? Same options as the ms account screen before it.

[-] ForgottenUsername@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago

Try and continue without a Microsoft account when installing windows 11

[-] 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 2 points 6 months ago

Possible on pro (at least, for now). But, not on home last time I checked (which, admittedly, has been about a year). My daily non-work computer is not, and will never be, windows. But work is work.

[-] Greyghoster@aussie.zone 1 points 6 months ago

What happens at work is work but at home there is always Linux and Libreoffice.

[-] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

This is literally the standard Google sync account stuff in every Chromium browser. Don't want it? Pick a browser that isn't Chrome based. That basically leaves Firefox or a handful of brand new alpha buggy browsers no one has heard of with dubious update potential.

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[-] DarkCloud@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

The tech bro corporate class is kind of in bed with each other. Individuals at Palantir and Meta were given the rank of Lt. Colonel the other day. They all contribute to each other's data (selling and trading it to the same data brokers). Have similar people funding them, using and buying their products. Lots of the messaging and cultural stances they take are similar. Their heads know each other, or have ways to contact each other. Some have histories of working at the same companies, knowing the same people. Occupying the same end of the class war.

[-] londos@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

I wonder if it's an early response to the talk of breaking up Google and Chrome. MS gets more people onboarded to Edge and Google still gets your browser level metrics.

[-] lmmarsano@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

photograph of monitor

pressing Print ScreenPrint Screen key
Does OP know about screenshots (Print Screen key or WindowsKey-Shift-S which brings up Snipping Tool) or alt text? 🤦

[-] buttnugget@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago

I don’t really understand the issue here. Why does anyone care if you can sign into Google services on Edge?

[-] 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 0 points 6 months ago

It's not the ability that's bothersome (that part is fine, and has been there). It's the fact that this is part of the first boot screen you see on Edge now, with dark patterns to get you to do it.

[-] buttnugget@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

Oh sure, that makes sense. I never use Edge except when I’m testing a windows server VM.

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