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She called 911 to report domestic abuse. Then Houston police called ICE on her. (www.houstonchronicle.com)
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[-] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 24 points 2 weeks ago

It wasn't until she called the number the next day that she learned the police had called immigration agents on her. The officer who answered the phone told her that the police report noted that ICE had been contacted, and advised her not to make a report in person or risk being detained, she said.

The only good cop is a cop that snitches and tells you not to trust the other cops.

[-] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 weeks ago

I know I'll get downvoted to hell for this, but I have to stick up for the big Texas metros, especially Austin and Houston. They are in a constant battle against fascist state government as well as federal fuckery. The police department is legally required to alert the appropriate agencies of any open warrants. If they do not comply, the state and federal government will step in. What they are NOT required to do is to warn the victim against possible ICE detention. That is just HPD trying to do better in what is essentially a fucked situation.

SOURCE: Former Austin resident of over twenty years.

PS: That is not to say that those police departments don't have their issues. They have many. But I don't think they are as complicit with Trump's gestapo as the majority of Florida law enforcement is.

[-] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

If they do not comply, the state and federal government will step in.

So the defense is, to avoid having state and federal jackboots come in, the only solution is to put on jackboots yourself and become part of the problem?

[-] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 11 points 2 weeks ago

You misunderstood. I don't mean that the state or the feds will send their own people. I mean that they will literally take the police control away from the city government. The Texas legislature has been very close to doing so a number of times before I left because the city did not want to brutalize the homeless population.

The rest of the country has no idea how much and how often Austin city council butts heads with the state. Liberal council and a fascist state sharing the same.downtown area. The state legislature loves to abuse the city as a way to parade their anti-woke agenda to their rural magats.

Don't even get me started on the gerrymandering of Austin.

[-] partial_accumen@lemmy.world -4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

You misunderstood. I don’t mean that the state or the feds will send their own people. I mean that they will literally take the police control away from the city government.

If they already have the local police doing their dirty work, haven't they already effectively done that?

[-] madcaesar@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

Dude... He's explaining to you the shitty and hard situation there and you're just being obtuse

[-] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Nah, only snitch cops are good cops, and the responding officer just quietly filed the notification to ICE. He could have said right then "FYI, I had to notify ICE because they have an active warrant out for you" or if he was an especially good cop "forget" to, but he just quietly followed orders and reported the victim to the gestapo.

[-] jaybone@lemmy.zip 0 points 2 weeks ago

Aren’t all police agencies required to check on your warrants and report those to whatever jurisdiction they are from?

But as far as ICE, are you saying the Houston police are required to report people to ICE?

[-] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 weeks ago

Aren’t all police agencies required to check on your warrants and report those to whatever jurisdiction they are from?

Yes

But as far as ICE, are you saying the Houston police are required to report people to ICE?

No. In fact, cities like Houston and Austin try to not volunteer information that they are not required to by law. If you read the article you'll see that the lady that called the police has an active deportation warrant, which is why the police officer was obligated to notify ICE and also why the police officer told her to not show up.

[-] El_guapazo@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago

Sounds like it's time to not cooperate with the Houston Police in any investigation. Take matters into your own hands.

[-] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 weeks ago

sounds like it's (long past) time to not cooperate with the ~~Houston~~ police in any investigation.

FTFY.

[-] MushuChupacabra@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago

Voting Republican is voting for evil.

[-] Resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 weeks ago

And on foreign policy, voting Democrat is voting for evil.

[-] MushuChupacabra@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago

And on foreign policy, voting Democrat is voting for evil.

And hyping that sort of bullshit is how you get Donald Trump's current foreign policy. There is no universe in which Donald Trump is a better alternative for domestic or foreign policy.

You absolute sack of hammers.

[-] chloroken@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 weeks ago

Liberalism: believing two things cannot be evil at once.

[-] MushuChupacabra@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago

clorokenism:

Disregarding the objectively worse current administration's current attrocities in order to chirp the old administration.

Goal directed behavior designed to supress and deflect criticism of Donald Trump.

You sack of hammers.

[-] chloroken@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 weeks ago

Top mind of Lemmy here, folks.

[-] MushuChupacabra@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago

Top mind of Lemmy here, folks.

Non sequitur for you to look at, folks.

[-] TachyonTele@piefed.social 11 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

The only reason I've ever seen to call the cops was when someone sped through a light, gained air over a hedge, and smashed hood first into a building. And that was just because i wanted the ambulance to get to them fast.

Noise? Never.
Fights? Never.
Strange noises. Never.
Etc etc.
All they do is cause more problems.

[-] pyre@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

if there's a breaking and entering you probably have more chance reasoning with the trespasser than having anything good come from pigs showing up.

[-] AnarchistArtificer@slrpnk.net 4 points 2 weeks ago

A random non-cop is probably going to have better de-escalation skills than a cop too

[-] itsprobablyfine@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 weeks ago

Every interaction I've ever had with police I've been the one attempting to de escalate. Literally 100%. What's frustrating is you speaking calmly and clearly pisses them off even more because they feel like you're speaking down to them. They feel like they are supposed to be the reasonable ones and you're making them look bad. Which of course you are, because they're not.

[-] arin@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

Depends on your melanin content unfortunately. Fuck racist pigs

[-] isolatedscotch@discuss.tchncs.de -5 points 2 weeks ago

what? fuck off with this acab bullshit, it's not all black and white, if there's a knife fight in the neighbor's house i'm calling the police, and i'm appalled that there's someone who wouldnt.

what do you suggest, getting stabbed yourself? ignoring it and letting an innocent human being die? how would you even sleep with that at night?

[-] pyre@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

the problem is they never check who's who before they start shooting. there are numerous instances where the person who calls the police for protection is the one who gets shot.

so your choice is between a stabbing and a shooting. and a stabbing you might be able to run away from.

[-] isolatedscotch@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

this sounds awfully similar to "man or bear"

just because police are uncompetent pigs who sometimes shoot the caller, doesn't mean that in the majority of the cases they'll shoot them.

And just because you have that 1% risk of getting wrongly shot (could be lower, pulled the number out of my ass) doesn't mean you should try to face the very real and instant threat of another person trying to stab you.

[-] 0x0@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 weeks ago

that 1% risk

In the context of the US, i'd say 1% is probably the percentage of actual competent, professional, relatively unbiased cops.

[-] pyre@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago

and just as man vs bear, you have to be very privileged to not get why bear is the popular choice.

[-] isolatedscotch@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 weeks ago

yes, having a functioning brain is very privileged in these trying times, thanks for the acknowledgement

[-] pyre@lemmy.world -1 points 2 weeks ago

that doesn't even make sense... having a functioning brain prevents you from understanding why the bear was a popular choice?

[-] isolatedscotch@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 weeks ago

no, it makes me understand the levels of delusion and irrealism (and the inability to do math) people have, be it with man or bear or ACAB

[-] pyre@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago

oh god i didn't think it would get worse but it got worse

[-] isolatedscotch@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 weeks ago

you know, if you have to express your disappointment/disagreement, you don't have to comment without expanding the conversation further. downvote and move on.

[-] TachyonTele@piefed.social -1 points 2 weeks ago

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[-] isolatedscotch@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 weeks ago

i mean you were the one who brought up not calling the police on fights, soo

[-] TachyonTele@piefed.social 0 points 2 weeks ago

Ok bootlicker

[-] AA5B@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

This is exactly the use case for not allowing cops to actively help ICE. Not only are there jurisdictional issues, but now you’re discouraging people from calling help when they need it

Similar for drivers licenses. If you get into an accident, do you prefer the other driver to be licensed and insured, and take responsibility, or do you want them uninsured and hit and run?

And SNAP. Please tell me no state requires immigration status, forcing people to starve their kids

[-] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 weeks ago

Austin, Houston, and San Antonio have been working for years to try and build a non-adversarial relationship with the massive hispanic population in their area. This is key to keeping crime rates low and communities safe. Millions of dollars and thousands of hours spent on community outreach and relationship building, and Trump just takes a shit on it all overnight.

[-] BlemboTheThird@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 weeks ago

discouraging people from calling help when they need it

This is literally why they're doing it. Government makes simply existing illegal for a huge class of workers so companies abuse them as much as they want while they're too scared to call for help, no matter how bad it gets. Bonus points if the general population hates them too so even publicity doesn't matter. (Hey, totally unrelated, isn't it great how convicts are so heavily vilified for life?) I know the phrase is way overused, but The Cruelty Is The Point isn't (only) about how psycho some of these people are, it points to how they'll do anything for money.

In the end, though, this a great way for gangs gain power. People aren't going to stop calling for help, they're going to stop calling the police for help. I guess the party of law and order would love a good crime wave.

[-] isolatedscotch@discuss.tchncs.de -1 points 2 weeks ago

Hey, totally unrelated, isn't it great how convicts are so heavily vilified for life?

murders someone in cold blood

WhY dO yOu HaTe Me sO mUcH

[-] Kickforce@lemmy.wtf 1 points 2 weeks ago

It's not just murderers that get that though. Even if you went to jail for something like driving while black, you are a dangerous ex-con for life.

[-] isolatedscotch@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 2 weeks ago

i understand the systemic racism in police but "driving while black" isn't an actual crime, let alone one that can put you in jail

[-] Kickforce@lemmy.wtf 0 points 2 weeks ago

It's only a way of starting an interaction, it escalates easily with things like "illegal possession", "resisting arrest" and "assaulting a police officer" . Which are all things that might happen without the suspect doing anything really.

[-] isolatedscotch@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 2 weeks ago

assaulting a police officer without doing anything is a new one to me...

[-] Kickforce@lemmy.wtf 0 points 2 weeks ago

Happens regularly often the police officers find themselves compelled to kill their passive aggressor in self defense.

[-] isolatedscotch@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 weeks ago

of course... regularly often... like in the recent case of............................................

[-] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

You have the right to a speedy deportation, anything you say may not fucking matter at all because you sound like your skin is brown so we're deporting you regardless.

[-] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

For additional context, immigration law includes specific carveouts for domestic abuse. Under the law, a victim of domestic violence cannot be deported legally regardless of their immigration status.

Party of no law and no order.

[-] WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 weeks ago

When this is over, we need to fill the concentration camps with ICE agents. Every last one of them needs to be disappeared.

[-] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 weeks ago

She's clearly a trouble-maker, keeps getting into fights.

/s I hope this wasn't needed...

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