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And of course they had to shoehorn some AI bullshit in it

(why I installed this driver: because i can remap the two extra buttons as copy/paste)

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[-] orionsbelt@midwest.social 48 points 1 week ago

maybe this will help, if you wanted to ditch the logi driver:

https://github.com/pwr-Solaar/Solaar

Solaar is a Linux manager for many Logitech keyboards, mice, and other devices that connect wirelessly to a Unifying, Bolt, Lightspeed or Nano receiver as well as many Logitech devices that connect via a USB cable or Bluetooth. Solaar is not a device driver and responds only to special messages from devices that are otherwise ignored by the Linux input system.

[-] OhShitSon@lemmy.zip 12 points 1 week ago
[-] capuccino@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago
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[-] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

I hope one day theres something similar to this, but for 8bitdo.

I have an 8bitdo keyboard, and in order to map my buttons, I need to boot up a windows 10 hard drive, do my one time edits, save them to the keyboard, and THEN I can turn off the pc, swap back to my ZorinOS hard drive, and THEN I can go about as normal.

And if for some reason somethings wrong, or didn't take, I'd have to repeat the whole process all over again.

All because the keyboard manager doesn't work on linux. But it's not logitech.

[-] dubyakay@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 week ago

Sell the 8bitdo keyboard and buy one instead that is capable of running with QMK or ZMK firmware and is configurable by either VIA or VIAL.

[-] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

.........now are those real words, or are you picking out random spoonfuls of alphabet soup?

[-] dubyakay@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 week ago

QMK and ZMK are FOSS firmwares that can run on Atmel AVR and ARM chips like the RP2040.

VIA or VIAL are config utilities that you can use to remap your keyboard on the fly.

[-] Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 week ago

I'm going to assume these are open source apps because for some reason that's how those guys like to name stuff.

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[-] hperrin@lemmy.ca 43 points 1 week ago

The driver for your mouse occupies a few kilobytes. The shitty app and AI garbage bloatware occupies the rest.

[-] ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world 30 points 1 week ago

Use the offline installer, which is for offline and airgapped machines. It turns off the AI prompt builder as well as all the telemetry shite:

https://support.logi.com/hc/en-us/articles/11570501236119-Logitech-Options-offline-installer

[-] bluesheep@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 week ago

AI prompt builder? What? It's a fucking mouse??????

[-] ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

It is repulsive to me in its entirety but apparently the vibe coders dig it.

[-] pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

But it has AI? If your mouse doesn't have AI, you're living in the past

Edit: ~~post~~ past

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[-] Buske@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

Logitech, the data company?!?!

[-] linrilang@lemmy.world 29 points 1 week ago

We detected you moved your mouse. Downloading 1GB of AI telemetry and 3GB of user experience optimizations…

[-] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 27 points 1 week ago

The mouse driver used with the Commodore 64's GEOS operating system uses 3 blocks on disk, less than a kilobyte.

[-] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago

Most of the reason why the Logitech driver is so gargantuan is a separate Chromium browser instance, because someone thought that apps should be all websites first, which lead to most GUI libraries being developed for javascript and most devs being taught to be web developers.

[-] merdaverse@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

VSCode is also electron with a 100mb download size and 400mb install size. I think it has 1000x more functionality than some shit Logitech UI where you change LED colors. This sounds more like incompetence on the Logitech team than a problem with electron itself.

It's not like traditional methods of packing apps are without problems. If I want to install the qbittorrent flatpak on Ubuntu, it pulls in >1gb of KDE depenencies, so I really don't see how that's better than these dreaded electron apps.

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[-] Honytawk@feddit.nl 8 points 1 week ago

But did it support RGB?

Didn't think so, checkmate!

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[-] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 25 points 1 week ago

Fuck electron, fuck "web first" apps, fuck the "all application in the future will be websites" mentality.

[-] Gonzako@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

Man, they really developed the most unfun layout system and then tried to force it to everyone

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[-] MyNamesTotallyRobert@lemmynsfw.com 20 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

holy fucking shit. I once programmed a mouse driver for an 8 bit computer with 32kb of ram. I don't remember the exact size of the compiled driver but it was under 1kb.

Today's tech companies probably couldn't even figure out a way to make a hello world in python without it needing 100gb of storage, an Intel Core9/AMD Ryzen 7000 or better, an internet connection and an online user account.

[-] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 week ago

Maybe a Docker or two, perhaps a VM in the cloud. Is that still hip with the kids?

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[-] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 1 week ago

wtf AI in your mouse driver?

Oh yeah, totally not logging your every mouse movement, no sir, not at all!

[-] nogooduser@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

It’s training itself to pass those mouse based “I’m human” checks that some sites use.

[-] jaybone@lemmy.zip 10 points 1 week ago

That’s hilarious. But might actually not be a joke.

[-] frenchfryenjoyer@lemmings.world 18 points 1 week ago

what the fuck?? why would a mouse need ai? ancient computer user here who is very confused lol

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[-] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 15 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

That's not the driver but some bundled configuration & update bloatware.

Back in my days, you had to overwrite some .exe with a "0" to disable Nvidia from spying on you. The overwrite, because they would just download it again if you deleted the .exe.

[-] Treczoks@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

I remember installing a fresh PC with win98. During installation, I disabled some windows bloatware (Imagine! You actually could do this!), and ended up with an unresponsive, non-windows app blocking the system. I killed that app and removed it from the system. Keep in mind that at this point, no network connection was set up, nor did I install any driver or program yet, this was straight from the windows install medium.

After reboot, the app was back, and again blocking the system.

Wiping the harddisk and starting installation over did not help either.

Turned out this was some bloatware installed by the BIOS whenever it detected at boot that there was a) a Windows installation that was b) "missing" their "register your PC with us" app. This needed some Windows bloatware to work, and thus failed on this machine.

This was the only time I angrily screamed at a hotline worker.

[-] cyrano@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 1 week ago
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[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 13 points 1 week ago

Actual driver code: about 500KB. If that.

[-] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 week ago

500KB used to be the entire OS, application, drivers, and user data. Oh well.

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[-] billwashere@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

I have several Logitech peripherals. Why in the fuck does it need AI?!?!

[-] theparadox@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

I mean, this was their idea last year...

Forever "Subscription Mouse"

I feel like "AI Mouse" is right up their alley.

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[-] SaltySalamander@fedia.io 12 points 1 week ago

The driver consumes a few KB. The bullshit software that you don't need to install is what's consuming the GB.

[-] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

We live in the age of bloated software.

[-] veni_vedi_veni@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

The Internet is so bloated because every page is bursting with telemetry and spa framework bullshit that over engineers a fucking music recital site.

[-] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 6 points 1 week ago

Input Remapper on linux can get the job done without the need for this junk. I've used it for this exact purpose before.

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[-] 21Cabbage@lemmynsfw.com 5 points 1 week ago

It doesn't contribute at all to the conversation but BOOOOOOO to them for that nonsense.

[-] FinalRemix@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

That "logi" rebrand really shows how shit they've gotten.

Logitech Gaming Software was the last good thing they made.

[-] Matriks404@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

Don't look up how much space Nvidia drivers take then.

[-] AlteredEgo@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 week ago

+1 for using space sniffer. It's the best of such apps I've found. Unfortunately doesn't seem to get updated any more.

[-] supamanc@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

Windirstat or kdirstat for the win

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[-] tordenflesk@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

The software, afaik there is no actual driver involved.

[-] the_wiz@feddit.org 5 points 1 week ago

Baaack in my day we got a driver for our mouse on a single DD floppy...

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[-] yarr@feddit.nl 5 points 1 week ago

My first mouse driver was smaller than the picture you attached to this post

[-] Albbi@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 week ago

Please don't be Logitech, please don't be Logitech...

Damnit.

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