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submitted 10 months ago by babysandpiper@sopuli.xyz to c/news@lemmy.world

Diquat is banned in the UK, EU, China and other countries. The US has resisted calls to regulate it

The herbicide ingredient used to replace glyphosate in Roundup and other weedkiller products can kill gut bacteria and damage organs in multiple ways, new research shows.

The ingredient, diquat, is widely employed in the US as a weedkiller in vineyards and orchards, and is increasingly sprayed elsewhere as the use of controversial herbicide substances such as glyphosate and paraquat drops in the US.

But the new piece of data suggests diquat is more toxic than glyphosate, and the substance is banned over its risks in the UK, EU, China and many other countries. Still, the EPA has resisted calls for a ban, and Roundup formulas with the ingredient hit the shelves last year.

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[-] AstaKask@lemmy.cafe 26 points 10 months ago

And people wonder why no one wants to import food from the U.S.

[-] NatakuNox@lemmy.world 14 points 10 months ago

This. The only thing outside of oil we can export in mass is our agricultural products. But years of disinformation and corporations greed even our dirt is infected with their taint.

[-] SheeEttin@lemmy.zip 6 points 10 months ago

The US's other major exports are cultural. Movies, music, and such.

[-] NatakuNox@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

Culture... Whenever I go over seas I'm actually surprised how fast US culture is disappearing. Movies, music, and such was something we held a strong monopoly on. But but that's only because we're the most technically advanced to mass produce such things. Now. Nearly every other nation especially China's and Russia's "Hollywood" pumps out enough content to satisfy their demographics. American (western) content used to be the only thing on the shelves over seas. Now we're relegated to just a corner. The world doesn't care as much about our pop music and movies. Those have greatly decreased in quality anyways.

[-] Treczoks@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago

The list of dangerous and deadly things banned everywhere else, but still legal in the US is amazingly long. And it is not only pesticides, supplements, paints, building materials, but mostly food.

But: Kinder Surprise is still highly illegal in America.

[-] OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca 9 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Diquat is banned in the UK, EU, China and other countries.

Notice Canada is not listed as a country that bans diquat. It is legal and available here.

[-] KMAMURI@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

We have a pretty strong follow the leader vibe here in Canada when it comes to regulation. It's fucked.

[-] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Whenever I read here Canadians here hoping for EU membership, I think about this: I'm sorry mates but you having chosen the insanelly unsafe rules of the US for all kinds of things, most notably food safety, means your regulations are totally incompatible with merelly Single Market membership (which would literally allow free export of that dangerous shit to the rest of the Single Market), much less EU membership.

Decades of regulatory alignment with the US means that all manner of Canadian products are dangerous and shouldn't be allowed into the EU, and now that your southern neighbor has shown its true colors beyond any doubt you should start unravelling that regulatory shit-show and align more with EU style regulation but, having lived in the UK when Carney was the head of the Bank Of England, I doubt he's the man for it: it's my impression that he's a man who knows who butter his bread - and that ain't the common folk - and it's for them he works.

[-] OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca 1 points 10 months ago

I agree. Carney's a banker. We already know whose side he's on.

[-] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 7 points 10 months ago

The trolls will be here claiming that it isn't proven in 3...2...1...

The research further scrutinizes how the substance harms the kidneys, lungs and liver. Diquat “causes irreversible structural and functional damage to the kidneys” because it can destroy kidney cells’ membranes and interfere with cell signals. The effects on the liver are similar, and the ingredient causes the production of proteins that inflame the organ.

Meanwhile, it seems to attack the lungs by triggering inflammation that damages the organ’s tissue. More broadly, the inflammation caused by diquat may cause multiple organ dysfunction syndrome, a scenario in which organ systems begin to fail.

[-] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago
[-] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 6 points 10 months ago

Sounds like secretary brainworm will be all over this before you can say brainworm. This is the kind of thing that is right up his alley. Harmful chemicals in our food supply? He is so against that, and will certainly do something for this very very very soon. I have complete faith.

/s 😭

[-] ComradeRachel@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 10 months ago

I hope washing veggies prevents consuming this stuff otherwise rip.

[-] Wahots@pawb.social 1 points 10 months ago

If you have to hope, it probably doesn't.

[-] Gaja0@lemmy.zip 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

The largest billboard on my way to work says stop punishing farmers–don't ban glysophate. I've been complaining about the toxic state of the missouri river since highschool. People don't care. For killing weeds on gravel, dillute some white vinegar and add dish soap to kill weeds. It's a cost effective and environmentally friendly weed killer. That, and blocking light with cardboard.

[-] GrumpyDuckling@sh.itjust.works 2 points 10 months ago

There's an attachment for a skidsteer that will turn over a gravel driveway in a hurry and it's basically new again afterwards.

[-] peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 2 points 10 months ago

So the only thing that I haven't been able to figure out - is the danger from glyphosphate and now diquat the vapor after spraying or consumption of plants in close proximity?

[-] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 2 points 10 months ago

also some weeds are becoming resistant to glyphospate, they will have to keep using ever increasing toxic herbicide to combat it.

[-] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Whoa whoa! Slow down! We haven't even gotten rid of food dyes, flouride, vaccines, and seed oils yet. Gotta get at the back of the MAHA Train!

[-] Bob_Robertson_IX@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 10 months ago

Is nobody going to mention that the chemical is called "dick wad"?

[-] scytale@lemmy.zip 0 points 10 months ago

Ah shit the grass killer I have has diquat. But the weed killer variant from the same brand doesn't have it, which is interesting.

[-] SheeEttin@lemmy.zip 0 points 10 months ago

Just don't get it in your body and you'll be fine. (This includes eating foods sprayed with it without washing. Maybe also foods grown in contaminated soil; I didn't read the article or study thoroughly.)

Personally I use Natria weed killer (https://www.tractorsupply.com/tsc/product/natria-grass-weed-control-with-root-killer-1-gal-707201a), active ingredients: Ammoniated soap of fatty acids, Maleic Hydrazide. I still wouldn't get it in your body, but I'm pretty sure it's less harmful and breaks down into harmless components much quicker.

Of course it's also less effective, so it might take multiple applications, but that's to be expected.

[-] protist@mander.xyz 4 points 10 months ago

Diquat bonds strongly to mineral and organic particles in soil and water, where it remains without significant degradation for years. However, bound to clays, diquat is biologically inactive at the concentrations typically observed in agricultural soils.

Unfortunately, the "just don't eat it" idea doesn't work so well when it persists in the environment for so long

[-] Seasm0ke@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago

Yall should try a stirrup hoe or hula hoe.

[-] SheeEttin@lemmy.zip 0 points 10 months ago

I would, but that doesn't work for stuff coming up through cracks in concrete, or through chain link fence. Most of the stuff I spray is stuff I can't pull.

I had some oriental bittersweet coming up, and for that I dug down and pulled as much as I can, didn't even bother spraying. But there's also Virginia creeper and black swallow-wort around here mixed in with other stuff, including on the property line that I can't physically reach to pull. So that stuff I spray. (The neighbors basically let it grow wild, so they dgaf, I just keep it minimal.)

[-] grue@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I would, but that doesn’t work for stuff coming up through cracks in concrete, or through chain link fence.

For that sort of stuff, I recommend vinegar or propane. lMO the only reason to use a fancy commercial herbicide is when you need it to be selective, e.g. when you're trying to get rid of broad leaf lawn weeds without killing the grass, too. (Edit: I'm not endorsing that as a good reason, BTW, as I'm more of a !nolawns@slrpnk.net sympathizer myself. I'm just saying that it's the only one that's even plausible.)

[-] SheeEttin@lemmy.zip 1 points 10 months ago

I'll look into vinegar for the next round, thanks.

[-] KMAMURI@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

And a tiger torch weed burner is super fun. Who doesn't wanna play with fire and burn shit?!

[-] Seasm0ke@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Yeah those ones I been going manually. Ripped out and burned so much ivy and st johns wort... I just don't want to spray so bad ill break my back every month

[-] RestrictedAccount@lemmy.world -3 points 10 months ago

This is what happens when you vilify the safest weed killer ever discovered because “chemicals are bad”.

Not to mention that the kind of anti-scientific hysteria around glyphosate led directly to Robert Kennedy Junior.

[-] grue@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

No, this is what happens when you (a) have a "allowed until proven unsafe" regulatory framework instead of a "prohibited until proven safe" one, and perhaps more importantly (b) abjectly refuse to consider any weed control method other than ones that can be accomplished by indiscriminate use of a sprayer.

[-] bstix@feddit.dk 1 points 10 months ago

"Allowed until someone is sued for doing it and insurance can't keep paying out" more likely.

[-] RestrictedAccount@lemmy.world -4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

If your proscriptions were adopted, at least 4 billion people would starve and/or die from disease.

Kennedy doesn’t care.

[-] KMAMURI@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

Stop growing fucking soy, canola and corn for fuel and plastic and it's easy to feed everyone. It's not about feeding people it's about money.

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