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There were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror—that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves.


If you have evidence of Israeli crimes and atrocities that you wish to preserve, there is a thread here in which to do so.


Sources on the fighting in Palestine against Israel. In general, CW for footage of battles, explosions, dead people, and so on:

English-language Palestinian Marxist-Leninist twitter account.
English-language twitter account that collates news (and has automated posting when the person running it goes to sleep).
Arab-language twitter account with videos and images of fighting.
English-language (with some Arab retweets) Twitter account based in Lebanon.
English-language Palestinian Twitter account which reports on news from the Resistance Axis.

English-language PalestineResist telegram channel.

Various sources that are covering the Ukraine conflict are also covering the one in Palestine, like Rybar.


The Country of the Week is Palestine! Feel free to chime in with books, essays, longform articles, even stories and anecdotes or rants. More detail here.


Here is the map of the Ukraine conflict, courtesy of Wikipedia.

The weekly update is here.

Links and Stuff


The bulletins site is down.

Examples of Ukrainian Nazis and fascists

Examples of racism/euro-centrism during the Russia-Ukraine conflict

Add to the above list if you can.


Resources For Understanding The War


Defense Politics Asia's youtube channel and their map. Their youtube channel has substantially diminished in quality but the map is still useful.

Moon of Alabama, which tends to have interesting analysis. Avoid the comment section.

Understanding War and the Saker: reactionary sources that have occasional insights on the war.

Alexander Mercouris, who does daily videos on the conflict. While he is a reactionary and surrounds himself with likeminded people, his daily update videos are relatively brainworm-free and good if you don't want to follow Russian telegram channels to get news. He also co-hosts The Duran, which is more explicitly conservative, racist, sexist, transphobic, anti-communist, etc when guests are invited on, but is just about tolerable when it's just the two of them if you want a little more analysis.

On the ground: Patrick Lancaster, an independent and very good journalist reporting in the warzone on the separatists' side.

Unedited videos of Russian/Ukrainian press conferences and speeches.


Telegram Channels

Again, CW for anti-LGBT and racist, sexist, etc speech, as well as combat footage.

Pro-Russian

https://t.me/aleksandr_skif ~ DPR's former Defense Minister and Colonel in the DPR's forces. Russian language.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad ~ A few different pro-Russian people gather frequent content for this channel (~100 posts per day), some socialist, but all socially reactionary. If you can only tolerate using one Russian telegram channel, I would recommend this one.

https://t.me/s/levigodman ~ Does daily update posts.

https://t.me/patricklancasternewstoday ~ Patrick Lancaster's telegram channel.

https://t.me/gonzowarr ~ A big Russian commentator.

https://t.me/rybar ~ One of, if not the, biggest Russian telegram channels focussing on the war out there. Actually quite balanced, maybe even pessimistic about Russia. Produces interesting and useful maps.

https://t.me/epoddubny ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/boris_rozhin ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/mod_russia_en ~ Russian Ministry of Defense. Does daily, if rather bland updates on the number of Ukrainians killed, etc. The figures appear to be approximately accurate; if you want, reduce all numbers by 25% as a 'propaganda tax', if you don't believe them. Does not cover everything, for obvious reasons, and virtually never details Russian losses.

https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses ~ Pro-Russian, documents abuses that Ukraine commits.

Pro-Ukraine

Almost every Western media outlet.

https://discord.gg/projectowl ~ Pro-Ukrainian OSINT Discord.

https://t.me/ice_inii ~ Alleged Ukrainian account with a rather cynical take on the entire thing.


Last week's discussion post.


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[-] Catradora_Stalinism@hexbear.net 58 points 1 year ago

is gone for 10 hours

aight hows it going

856 new comments

what the fuck

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[-] jackmarxist@hexbear.net 58 points 1 year ago

The worst thing about Israeli propaganda is that they're just straight up rebranding Israeli crimes as Palestinian ones.

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[-] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 58 points 1 year ago

American companies are whack. Any humanitarian aid going to Israel is grotesque.

I've learned that Comcast is committing $2 million to aid humanitarian efforts unfolding in Israel and the Middle East.

"We are horrified & deeply saddened by the brutal attack on Israel," Comcast CEO Brian Roberts & president Mike Cavanagh wrote to employees earlier this week.

Nitter

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[-] theother2020@hexbear.net 58 points 1 year ago

I’ve listened to the latest the-podcast twice now and have never heard them be so careful, caveating and couching their points. This is not a criticism. It’s clear why and who they are doing it for.

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[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 58 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Do you think we could popularise the phrase "Cyberfascism" as a label for all the content that games companies keep churning out that they claim is "cyberpunk" when it's actually like "haha you get to play as a cop" or "haha you're a cyber mercenary, this is cyberpunk I definitely understand this genre" (Bungie's upcoming Tarkov-like game).

The opposite of cyberpunk in my mind is cyberfascism. And this content fits that label real well.

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[-] Flinch@hexbear.net 58 points 1 year ago
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[-] thirtymilliondeadfish@hexbear.net 58 points 1 year ago

The Palestinian health ministry, which is run by Hamas, says 1,900 Palestinians have been killed and 7,696 wounded in Israeli airstrikes on Gaza since this latest conflict began last weekend.

The ministry says the toll includes 370 women and 614 children.

Israel has always maintained it does not intentionally target civilians, and has released footage of what it says are anti-tank missiles being fired from the densely populated Gaza Strip.

40 beheaded babies is supposed to legitimise this

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[-] SeventyTwoTrillion@hexbear.net 58 points 1 year ago

Putin:

"I don't understand why the U.S. is dragging aircraft carrier groups into the Mediterranean Sea. I don't really understand the point. Are they going to bomb Lebanon or what? Or have they decided to try to scare someone? There are people there who are no longer afraid of anything. This is not the way to solve the problem. Compromise solutions need to be looked for. Of course, such actions are inflaming the situation."

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[-] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 58 points 1 year ago

MSNBC has had a vocab change. For Israel's ground war it seems they stopped using the word "imminent" and they have moved on to "inevitable".

[-] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 58 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I don't doubt there are Arab fascists out there, but isn't it strange that 99% of what we see reported by the western media as well as Palestinian media, Nazi symbols aren't used as a "psyop" tactic against Israel? Strange that Ukraine keeps using it and westerners keep defending them as if they have no choice. It's almost as if waving around a Nazi flag in battle is a deliberate announcement that you're a fascist.

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[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 58 points 1 year ago

Human Rights Watch: "The statements of the Israeli Defense Minister are disgusting, and depriving residents of occupied territories of food and electricity is collective punishment."

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[-] PaulSmackage@hexbear.net 58 points 1 year ago

feast We have the best mega, folks. It's a beautiful mega. Thay say we'll hit 4k by friday. Do I believe it, possibly. Will it, i hope it does.

[-] Parsani@hexbear.net 58 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

“I remember going through 9/11 and waking up the next day, the next week, and everything had changed,” he said. “It’s the same thing again. But worse because we’re such a small country.”

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/10/10/israel-hamas-carnage-00120858

The 9/11 comparisons are so fucking cynical. Just a play on the deep-seated Islamophobia inside the heart of every American.

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[-] Redcuban1959@hexbear.net 58 points 1 year ago

The emergency meeting of the Arab League regarding the situation in Gaza has commenced.

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[-] zephyreks@hexbear.net 58 points 1 year ago

Isn't Saturday Shabbat? As in, the day you're not supposed to work or study? That's the day that Hamas was supposedly planning to attack schoolchildren on?

[-] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 58 points 1 year ago

Just put this ad up on Israel's Craigslist, ready to do my part for the kids.

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[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 58 points 1 year ago

AFP, quoting the Chinese Foreign Minister: Israeli practices in Gaza after the Hamas attack exceed the acceptable limits of self-defense

Yeah no shit.

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[-] edge@hexbear.net 58 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This “40 beheaded babies” lie is really sick and twisted.

And now we have Biden saying

I never thought that I would see and have confirmed pictures of terrorists beheading children

even though he saw no such pictures. He just gave so much “credibility” to this horrid disgusting lie.

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[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 57 points 1 year ago
[-] Wertheimer@hexbear.net 57 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

lol

Schools and universities across the Bay Area said they were bolstering security measures — and in some cases canceling classes — amid so-far unsubstantiated threats of pro-Hamas violence.

Reminds me of this Onion from 2001

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[-] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 57 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Ken Klippenstein long tweet. What jumped out at me was the last sentence that I put in bold.

Egypt intelligence official says Israel ignored repeated warnings of 'something big' — Times of Israel

Mounting questions over Israel's massive intelligence failure to anticipate and prepare for a surprise Hamas assault were compounded Monday when an Egyptian intelligence official said that Jerusalem had ignored repeated warnings that the Gaza-based terror group was planning "something big" — which included an apparent direct notice from Cairo's intelligence minister to the prime minister.

The Egyptian official said Egypt, which often serves as a mediator between Israel and Hamas, had spoken repeatedly with the Israelis about "something big," without elaborating.

He said Israeli officials were focused on the West Bank and played down the threat from Gaza. Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's government is made up of supporters of West Bank settlers who have demanded a security crackdown there in the face of a rising tide of violence over the last 18 months.

"We have warned them an explosion of the situation is coming, and very soon, and it would be big. But they underestimated such warnings," the official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because he wasn't authorized to discuss the content of sensitive intelligence discussions with the media, told The Associated Press.

In one of the said warnings, Egypt's Intelligence Minister General Abbas Kamel personally called Netanyahu only 10 days before the massive attack that Gazans were likely to do "something unusual, a terrible operation," according to the Ynet news site.

Unnamed Egyptian officials told the site they were shocked by Netanyahu's indifference to the news and said the premier told the minister the military was "submerged" in troubles in the West Bank.

Nitter

Egypt intelligence official says Israel ignored repeated warnings of "something big" | The Times of Israel

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[-] BeamBrain@hexbear.net 57 points 1 year ago

I have to object to this item in the sidebar:

Using April 1st as an excuse to post fake headlines, like the death of Kissinger while he is still unfortunately alive, will result in the poster being thrown in the gamer gulag and be sentenced to play and beat trashy mobile games like 'Raid: Shadow Legends' in order to be rehabilitated back into general society.

Raid is an Israeli game and should not be played by anyone

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[-] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 57 points 1 year ago

Holy fucking shit - the homepage of the New York Times is in chef's kiss mode today. And I still have a couple articles to have a look at.

Don't miss the punchline at the very bottom.

archive.today • Opinion | I'm Going to War for Israel. Palestinians Are Not My Enemy. - The New York Times

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[-] TheCaconym@hexbear.net 57 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Several unconfirmed reports and videos of clashes with infiltrated marine fighters in Ashdod, the sixth largest city in Israel and twice as far as Asqalan from Gaza

Edit: lmao, now there are unconfirmed reports that the IDF and local police are actually the ones shooting at each other in Ashdod, incredible

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[-] sempersigh@hexbear.net 57 points 1 year ago

The further this escalates the more you're gonna see a lot of crazy shit from american christians. As someone who grew up in a very christian family I remember hearing a lot about end times prophecy and as a kid I got into the left behind series and I myself was convinced the rapture was gonna happen. What's happening now pushes a lot of these peoples buttons the fundies are already going ape shit over this convinced it means jesus is coming because a conflict involving Israel is supposedly when the tribulation begins.

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[-] Sandinband@hexbear.net 57 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

If I were being accused of genocide and collective punishment I simply would not announce im cutting off the internet to all of Palestine

[-] CarmineCatboy@hexbear.net 57 points 1 year ago

i'm starting to think that the servers can take a 1000+ post megathread

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[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 57 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

https://streamable.com/31plao

⚡️🇵🇸 the Israeli settler that Hamas resistance members released with her 2 kids saying she did not get harmed by them and saying that they took her to the borders and one of them gave her a sign with his hands in meaning that she and her kids can go and that’s when she understood that they were released,and then the resistances members walked back to Gaza,she also said that they gave her clothes to cover herself,then she kept walking her way on the borders and that’s when she saw another group of resistance members,she got scared and tried to hide but they saw her and her 2 kids and she was surprised that they kept walking their way to Gaza and didn’t do anything to her and then she kept walking until she arrived occupied cities.

Another video proves Israeli propaganda about the resistance hurting, killing ,r*pes women and children wrong .

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[-] kleeon@hexbear.net 57 points 1 year ago

we only need 993784 comments until one million. come on people. post harder

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[-] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 57 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

For years, elite colleges—and other influential institutions—have lent their prestige to once-radical concepts like decolonization, seeming to imagine that they could be kept separate from the gruesome histories out of which they emerged. Fanon, the intellectual godfather of “decolonial” thought, wasn’t so naïve. As the world becomes more dangerous again, the luxury of metaphorical radicalism may prove too costly to sustain.

"The violence which governed the ordering of the colonial world ... this same violence will be vindicated and appropriated when, taking history into their own hands, the colonized swarm into the forbidden cities..."

  • Frantz Fanon, The Wretched of the Earth.

"Middle class" radicals meet real world politics with actual consequences on the the ground = the complete collapse of their radicalism. Scratch a liberal and all that.

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[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 57 points 1 year ago

Hezbollah now says it has attacked the Israeli Pranit and Avivim barracks

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[-] ImOnADiet@lemmygrad.ml 57 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

We blew our load because Israeli media stared freaking out and now they’re saying there’s nothing lmfaoo

[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 57 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

CW: Censored killing

PLFP (Marxist Leninist) released some censored footage of their participation in attacks.

Weapons seen: AK-103-2 (from Libya) and Chinese Type 56-1 rifle.

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[-] smokeppb@hexbear.net 57 points 1 year ago

From Seymour Hersh: "NETANYAHU IS FINISHED"

Some choice excerpts:

The Sukkot celebration, held near a Palestinian village known in Hebrew as Haware, would need extraordinary protection, given the tension over the latest violence, and the local Israeli military authorities, with the approval of Netanyahu, ordered two of the three Army battalions, each with about 800 soldiers, that protected the border with Gaza to shift their focus to the Sukkot festival.

“That left only eight hundred soldiers,” the insider told me, “to be responsible for guarding the 51-kilometer border between the Gaza Strip and southern Israel. That meant the Israeli citizens in the south were left without an Israeli military presence for ten to twelve hours. They were left to fend for themselves. And that is why Bibi is finished. May take a few months, but he is over.”

Nothing we don't know, Netanyahu done goofed by moving troops away from Gaza at the critical moment.

As for a ground attack, the insider told me that there is a brutal alternative under consideration that could be described as the Leningrad approach, referring to the famed German effort to starve out the city now known as St. Petersburg during World War II. The Nazi siege lasted nearly 900 days and the death toll was at least 800,000 and possibly many more. It is known that the Hamas leadership and much of its manpower “live underground,” and Israel’s goal is to destroy as much of that manpower “without attempting a traditional house-to-house attack.”

"The Leningrad Approach". strangelove

The insider added that some Israelis were “made anxious” by the initial statements from world leaders in Germany, France, and England who avowed, in one case through an aide, their total support for an immediate response but added that it should be guided by the rule of law. President Biden reinforced that point in an unscheduled appearance at a White House conference of Jewish leaders Wednesday by pointedly saying that he had recently told Netanyahu: “it is really important that Israel, with all the anger and frustration and just—I don’t know how to explain it—that exists is that they operate by the rules of war—the rules of war. And there are rules of war.”

Foolish international leaders, don't they know Israel runs purely on war crimes? It's like telling a shark to stop swimming, they need to swim to breathe.

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