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There were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror—that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves.


If you have evidence of Israeli crimes and atrocities that you wish to preserve, there is a thread here in which to do so.


Sources on the fighting in Palestine against Israel. In general, CW for footage of battles, explosions, dead people, and so on:

English-language Palestinian Marxist-Leninist twitter account.
English-language twitter account that collates news (and has automated posting when the person running it goes to sleep).
Arab-language twitter account with videos and images of fighting.
English-language (with some Arab retweets) Twitter account based in Lebanon.
English-language Palestinian Twitter account which reports on news from the Resistance Axis.

English-language PalestineResist telegram channel.

Various sources that are covering the Ukraine conflict are also covering the one in Palestine, like Rybar.


The Country of the Week is Palestine! Feel free to chime in with books, essays, longform articles, even stories and anecdotes or rants. More detail here.


Here is the map of the Ukraine conflict, courtesy of Wikipedia.

The weekly update is here.

Links and Stuff


The bulletins site is down.

Examples of Ukrainian Nazis and fascists

Examples of racism/euro-centrism during the Russia-Ukraine conflict

Add to the above list if you can.


Resources For Understanding The War


Defense Politics Asia's youtube channel and their map. Their youtube channel has substantially diminished in quality but the map is still useful.

Moon of Alabama, which tends to have interesting analysis. Avoid the comment section.

Understanding War and the Saker: reactionary sources that have occasional insights on the war.

Alexander Mercouris, who does daily videos on the conflict. While he is a reactionary and surrounds himself with likeminded people, his daily update videos are relatively brainworm-free and good if you don't want to follow Russian telegram channels to get news. He also co-hosts The Duran, which is more explicitly conservative, racist, sexist, transphobic, anti-communist, etc when guests are invited on, but is just about tolerable when it's just the two of them if you want a little more analysis.

On the ground: Patrick Lancaster, an independent and very good journalist reporting in the warzone on the separatists' side.

Unedited videos of Russian/Ukrainian press conferences and speeches.


Telegram Channels

Again, CW for anti-LGBT and racist, sexist, etc speech, as well as combat footage.

Pro-Russian

https://t.me/aleksandr_skif ~ DPR's former Defense Minister and Colonel in the DPR's forces. Russian language.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad ~ A few different pro-Russian people gather frequent content for this channel (~100 posts per day), some socialist, but all socially reactionary. If you can only tolerate using one Russian telegram channel, I would recommend this one.

https://t.me/s/levigodman ~ Does daily update posts.

https://t.me/patricklancasternewstoday ~ Patrick Lancaster's telegram channel.

https://t.me/gonzowarr ~ A big Russian commentator.

https://t.me/rybar ~ One of, if not the, biggest Russian telegram channels focussing on the war out there. Actually quite balanced, maybe even pessimistic about Russia. Produces interesting and useful maps.

https://t.me/epoddubny ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/boris_rozhin ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/mod_russia_en ~ Russian Ministry of Defense. Does daily, if rather bland updates on the number of Ukrainians killed, etc. The figures appear to be approximately accurate; if you want, reduce all numbers by 25% as a 'propaganda tax', if you don't believe them. Does not cover everything, for obvious reasons, and virtually never details Russian losses.

https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses ~ Pro-Russian, documents abuses that Ukraine commits.

Pro-Ukraine

Almost every Western media outlet.

https://discord.gg/projectowl ~ Pro-Ukrainian OSINT Discord.

https://t.me/ice_inii ~ Alleged Ukrainian account with a rather cynical take on the entire thing.


Last week's discussion post.


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[-] edge@hexbear.net 46 points 1 year ago
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[-] ThomasMuentzner@hexbear.net 46 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Narrativewise , Israels genocide is gonna get more apparent any day that passes from the "40 baby atrocity propaganda blitz" while israel produces industrial scale massacres on the altar of its injured ego. Now to "Change the picture" of Bombenholocaust on victims that cant even escape , israel needs to go in with groundforces . But "Going in" is a extremly high gamble. Bakmuth was 100.000 inhabitans , and it consumed the armour and ordinance of a middle sized nation.

Gaza is 2 million , the IDF, whos army just failed in the most spectacular way to even patrol the KZ fence.. , might just be devoured in it.. especially given the advances in dronewar smallarms etc.. So loose face (not go in & do scared revengebombing on children ) or go in and be devoured in this City..

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[-] TheGamingLuddite@hexbear.net 46 points 1 year ago

"Zealot" originally described a first century movement of Jewish religious radicalism against hostile, genocidal Roman forces. Religious Zealotry in the face of annihilation is as justified today as it was then. No equivocation, no excuses.

There are still Jews today, but the Romans have long since cannibalized themselves.

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[-] ImOnADiet@lemmygrad.ml 46 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Martyr Izz El-Din Al-Qassam Brigades spokesman, Abu Obeida:


In response to the enemy’s crime of displacing our people and forcing them to flee their homes in several areas of the Gaza Strip, we give the residents of the occupied city of Asqalan a deadline to leave it before five o’clock this evening, you have been warned.

What are they about to unleash jfc

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[-] thirtymilliondeadfish@hexbear.net 46 points 1 year ago

Hamas airborne division fancam set to LMFAO party rock

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[-] FortifiedAttack@hexbear.net 46 points 1 year ago

Nearing 700 posts in less than 24 hours.

This is gonna be an incredible week.

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[-] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 46 points 1 year ago

Senior Iraqi political figure threatens to target U.S. interests if it backs Israel

"If they intervene, we would intervene...if the Americans intervened openly in this conflict...we will consider all American targets legitimate … and we will not hesitate to target it," al-Amiri said during a tribal gathering in Baghdad on Monday night.

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[-] super_mario_69@hexbear.net 46 points 1 year ago

A gas pipeline (and some kind of data cable) that runs between Finland and Estonia was apparently damaged, possibly "sabotaged". No one knows shit, but investigations are ongoing. As usual the warhawks have already blamed the Russians. https://yle.fi/a/74-20054419

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[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 46 points 1 year ago

The Jalameh checkpoint in Jenin has been set on fire and resistance fighters there are claiming responsibility.

[-] GVAGUY3@hexbear.net 46 points 1 year ago

Norman Finklestein is pretty good whenever he isn't ranting about trans people

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[-] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 46 points 1 year ago

Fuck.

Gaza awakes to chaos under evacuation order that some are calling impossible | AP News

Residents in northern Gaza awoke to panic Friday after its 1.1 million residents, including hundreds of thousands in Gaza City, were ordered to evacuate south.

“This is chaos, no one understands what to do,” said Inas Hamdan, an officer at the United Nations’ Palestinian refugee agency in Gaza City while she grabbed whatever she could throw into her bags amid the panicked shouts of her relatives. She said all the U.N. staff in Gaza City and northern Gaza had been told to evacuate south to Rafah.

“Forget about food, forget about electricity, forget about fuel, the only concern now is just if you’ll make it, if you’re going to live,” Nebal Farsakh, spokesperson for the Palestinian Red Crescent in Gaza City said, breaking into heaving sobs. She said there was no possible way that 1.2 million people could be safely evacuated.

Imad Abu Alaa, U.N. Palestinian refugee agency officer in charge of shelters in northern Gaza, echoed that there were too many people to evacuate on too short notice for it to work. “What about U.N. shelters? We’re talking about civilians. Suddenly that doesn’t even matter?” he said.

Farsakh said there are hospital patients who cannot be moved under the current conditions, and many of the medics were refusing to leave and abandon their patients. Instead, she said, they called their colleagues to say goodbye.

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[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 46 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

UN has moved its operations. Can't say the same for the 1.1million civilians they told to move though.

UN people seem pissed.

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[-] Rojo27@hexbear.net 46 points 1 year ago

My dad is on his usual incessant news watching and its funny see just how all over the place the reporting on the 'Hamas harming babies' story is. One channel has pulled back entirely just claiming that Hamas were killing and burning people indiscriminately. Another says that Biliken did indeed see pictures of babies, but they were "filled with bullets or burned". And now yet another channel is reporting that there are pictures of beheaded babies. Like, on the one hand I guess the American propaganda machine doesn't need to do much anymore since there are still many who eat all this shit up, but on the other how is it that they can't get the story straight? I'm sure they still want to convince those who are on the fence about this. Yet they can't even decide on how to kill babies in a way that will draw the most outrage.

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[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 45 points 1 year ago

The Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs stated that Israeli airstrikes on Syrian territory could trigger an armed escalation across the entire region.

The ministry described the strikes as a blatant violation of Syria's sovereignty and fundamental norms of international law.

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[-] zephyreks@hexbear.net 45 points 1 year ago
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[-] LargePenis@hexbear.net 45 points 1 year ago

Gotta say that I'm pleasantly surprised by the patsoc types like Jackson Hinkle actually being principled and openly cutting through the insane western media propaganda in recent days. It would've been very easy for them to fall back into the classic "muslim horde" mode of racism that many on the pro-Russian side in Ukraine sadly subscribe to. These people aren't exactly leftists, but their brand of politics has matured since the media insanity of Ukraine and many of them have progressed from what I saw as pure grifting. No matter how shitty some of them are, it still takes real balls to go against the dominant western narrative on not just Ukraine, but also Israel. They could've been like any "working class" Trump Republican who hates Ukraine to own the libs, but is now frothing at the mouth just wanting to kill Muslims. Guys like Hinkle were better than that, and they deserve some credit for being a little brave in this shitty world.

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[-] Des@hexbear.net 45 points 1 year ago

is it possible hamas or other organizations in Gaza have stockpiled food or water? i know food is difficult because they were basically on borderline starvation "rations" thanks to israel but could water have been secretly diverted into underground cisterns or tanks?

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[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 45 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Rybar Oct 10 end of day sitrepFighting between the IDF has continued for four days and Palestinian groups: the Israelis are clearing the areas around the Gaza Strip, the parties are exchanging blows. By evening, the intensity of the clashes increased significantly again.

In northern Israel, Hezbollah units fired at IDF positions and damaged one vehicle; the Israelis responded by striking the territory of southern Lebanon. By evening, several shells were fired from Syria into the occupied Golan Heights.

Over the course of 24 hours, the Israeli Air Force attacked the Rafah border crossing on the border with Egypt several times and threatened to destroy any cargo sent to the enclave. But Egyptian President Abdel Fattah al-Sisi still ordered the preparation of a humanitarian convoy to Gaza.

The story of the discovery of more than 200 murdered residents, including 40 children, in Kibbutz Kfar Aza caused great excitement. At the same time, the media have so far shown footage of several dozen corpses. However, in four days, both sides demonstrated their willingness to destroy civilians.

Israeli Defense Minister Yoav Gallant announced that IDF soldiers were relieved of responsibility[Hexbear note: I have been unable to verify this so far] for all their actions during the conflict. This will inevitably affect the level of mutual cruelty.

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[-] Frank@hexbear.net 45 points 1 year ago

"Europe" is such a crock of shit. A bunch of racist Saxons trying to convince everyone else that the Mediterranean is the bottom of the world instead of the center.

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