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There were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror—that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves.


If you have evidence of Israeli crimes and atrocities that you wish to preserve, there is a thread here in which to do so.


Sources on the fighting in Palestine against Israel. In general, CW for footage of battles, explosions, dead people, and so on:

English-language Palestinian Marxist-Leninist twitter account.
English-language twitter account that collates news (and has automated posting when the person running it goes to sleep).
Arab-language twitter account with videos and images of fighting.
English-language (with some Arab retweets) Twitter account based in Lebanon.
English-language Palestinian Twitter account which reports on news from the Resistance Axis.

English-language PalestineResist telegram channel.

Various sources that are covering the Ukraine conflict are also covering the one in Palestine, like Rybar.


The Country of the Week is Palestine! Feel free to chime in with books, essays, longform articles, even stories and anecdotes or rants. More detail here.


Here is the map of the Ukraine conflict, courtesy of Wikipedia.

The weekly update is here.

Links and Stuff


The bulletins site is down.

Examples of Ukrainian Nazis and fascists

Examples of racism/euro-centrism during the Russia-Ukraine conflict

Add to the above list if you can.


Resources For Understanding The War


Defense Politics Asia's youtube channel and their map. Their youtube channel has substantially diminished in quality but the map is still useful.

Moon of Alabama, which tends to have interesting analysis. Avoid the comment section.

Understanding War and the Saker: reactionary sources that have occasional insights on the war.

Alexander Mercouris, who does daily videos on the conflict. While he is a reactionary and surrounds himself with likeminded people, his daily update videos are relatively brainworm-free and good if you don't want to follow Russian telegram channels to get news. He also co-hosts The Duran, which is more explicitly conservative, racist, sexist, transphobic, anti-communist, etc when guests are invited on, but is just about tolerable when it's just the two of them if you want a little more analysis.

On the ground: Patrick Lancaster, an independent and very good journalist reporting in the warzone on the separatists' side.

Unedited videos of Russian/Ukrainian press conferences and speeches.


Telegram Channels

Again, CW for anti-LGBT and racist, sexist, etc speech, as well as combat footage.

Pro-Russian

https://t.me/aleksandr_skif ~ DPR's former Defense Minister and Colonel in the DPR's forces. Russian language.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad ~ A few different pro-Russian people gather frequent content for this channel (~100 posts per day), some socialist, but all socially reactionary. If you can only tolerate using one Russian telegram channel, I would recommend this one.

https://t.me/s/levigodman ~ Does daily update posts.

https://t.me/patricklancasternewstoday ~ Patrick Lancaster's telegram channel.

https://t.me/gonzowarr ~ A big Russian commentator.

https://t.me/rybar ~ One of, if not the, biggest Russian telegram channels focussing on the war out there. Actually quite balanced, maybe even pessimistic about Russia. Produces interesting and useful maps.

https://t.me/epoddubny ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/boris_rozhin ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/mod_russia_en ~ Russian Ministry of Defense. Does daily, if rather bland updates on the number of Ukrainians killed, etc. The figures appear to be approximately accurate; if you want, reduce all numbers by 25% as a 'propaganda tax', if you don't believe them. Does not cover everything, for obvious reasons, and virtually never details Russian losses.

https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses ~ Pro-Russian, documents abuses that Ukraine commits.

Pro-Ukraine

Almost every Western media outlet.

https://discord.gg/projectowl ~ Pro-Ukrainian OSINT Discord.

https://t.me/ice_inii ~ Alleged Ukrainian account with a rather cynical take on the entire thing.


Last week's discussion post.


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[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 61 points 1 year ago

Reports that Russia is preparing a draft UN Security Council resolution for Gaza ceasefire

https://twitter.com/spectatorindex/status/1712933875994017977

The US will probably veto this because Israel do not want peace, but it will put a stop to the idea that the US is looking for peace and have some political costs.

[-] LeninWeave@hexbear.net 61 points 1 year ago

New type of guy: angry that lately people are misinterpreting his political stance as anticolonial when he actually just really hates electronica music.

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[-] Redcuban1959@hexbear.net 61 points 1 year ago

Wall Street Journal quoting an Iranian official: If Iran properly is attacked, it will send its fighters from Syria to attack Israel

“Iran possesses the largest and most diverse missile arsenal in the Middle East with thousands of ballistic and cruise missiles, some capable of striking as far as Israel and southeast Europe.

For the past decade, Iran has invested significantly to improve these weapons’ precision and lethality. Such developments have made Iran’s missile forces a potent tool for Iranian power projection and a credible threat to U.S. and partner military forces in the region.

Iran is also a major hub for weapons proliferation, supplying partner/proxy groups such as Hezbollah and Syria’s al-Assad regime with a steady supply of missiles and rockets, as well as local production capability.”

Iran not only has the capability to strategically bombard Israel proper in response to aggression thanks to deep stocks of munitions, its missile force is also sophisticated to the point it could cripple the U.S. CENTCOM assets in the wider region.

This means not only destroying U.S. bases in places like Iraq or Bahrain, but also closing the Strait of Hormuz and the Bab el-Mandeb Strait to oil shipping. This would likely collapse the Western economies, due to their dependence on foreign oil.

It’s easy to imagine the collapse in U.S. prestige and power projection capabilities that would follow such a conflict, particularly if Iran is able to sink American carriers, as they have the capacity to do.

Al-Jazeera quoting a Israeli Radio, citing a senior official source: The number of Israeli casualties is unfathomable and much greater than what was announced.

[-] Flinch@hexbear.net 61 points 1 year ago

So many US politicians are gung-ho about bombing Iran over all of this. They truly are all holden-bloodfeast

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[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 61 points 1 year ago

United Nations: Prior to evacuation order by Israeli authorities, over 400,000 Palestinians in Gaza had been internally displaced and were sheltered & protected by UN

[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 61 points 1 year ago

Another journalist friend in Gaza says most Palestinians don’t want to flee because they don’t want a repeat of 1948 Nakba, they would rather die in their homes. All displaced people have nowhere to go but into the streets, waiting to be killed

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[-] sempersigh@hexbear.net 61 points 1 year ago

folks go to your bathroom and turn off the lights. Light a candle and look into the mirror and chant "hormuz, hormuz, hormuz" if enough of us do this we can get the Islamic Republic of Iran to close the strait of hormuz. sankara-salute

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[-] Torenico@hexbear.net 61 points 1 year ago

I SALUTE MY COMRADES POSTING IN THE NEWS MEGATHREAD

I SALUTE THE FLAG 🇵🇸

[-] Frogmanfromlake@hexbear.net 60 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

"America Worshippers" and "NATO leftists" are two terms that really get Western "leftists" and their EU lapdogs mad. Got a shit ton of angry DM's saying that tell me how not angry they are in the form of 8-10 paragraph messages. One of them even threatened to come to where I live. I told them it was cool as long as they were okay with my rifle in their face.

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[-] buh@hexbear.net 60 points 1 year ago

Hasan explaining international politics to Americans: imagine a school shooting

[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 60 points 1 year ago
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[-] mkultrawide@hexbear.net 60 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Well, pretty much my only friend left that I hang out with in my city texted me asking if I "still support Hamas" over the child beheadings, and didn't take it well when I sent him links showing that media outlets were backtracking on the story. I never even said that "support hamas" either. Hopefully he chills out...

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[-] mkultrawide@hexbear.net 60 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I've discovered a new way to argue with "both sides" reddit-logo users who are clearly lying about "condemning Israeli violence against civilians."

https://redditcommentsearch.com/

Search their comment history for comments condemning Israeli violence not in the context of them trying to "both sides" the issue when commenting about Palestinian violence so as to appear "unbiased". Then watch them get really mad when you ask them to provide a comment as an example because you can't seem to find one.

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[-] TheGamingLuddite@hexbear.net 60 points 1 year ago

Netanyahu wants Hamas treated like ISIS. Expect Israel to provide Hamas with weapons and intelligence very soon.

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[-] SeventyTwoTrillion@hexbear.net 60 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

let's see how fast we can speedrun through all the previous atrocity propaganda claims

"First, Hamas gunned down peaceful civilians at the Rave For Peace Where All Of Us Are Innocent Poor Little Meow Meows (the only place in the whole of Israel to do this was extremely close to the Gaza fence, everywhere else was booked). Hamas ripped Israeli babies out of incubators and killed them. They then took their mobile incinerators out of Gaza and brought them to Israeli villages to try and hide their atrocities. Hamas then targeted an Israeli destroyer boat and shot at it in the gulf. They fired a missile at a packed train station, then an Israeli theater building, fired missiles at schools that definitely didn't contain soldiers, left mines and bombs on playgrounds, lined up a bunch of stolen tanks in front of an Israeli holding two bags in a public square and ran him over, and then, for good measure, found a random Uyghur and killed him. What despicable terrorists."

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[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 60 points 1 year ago

Israel's "humane" and "surgical" strikes

[-] jackmarxist@hexbear.net 60 points 1 year ago

All the hype regarding IDF and Mossad Fell flat on it's face so hard that the US has to send Aircraft carriers to defend Israel from Guerilla fighters.

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[-] Goblinmancer@hexbear.net 60 points 1 year ago

Supposedly most advanced propaganda in the world writing blatantly fake google translated documents explaining how hamas plans to attack israeli schools at saturday.

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[-] Parsani@hexbear.net 60 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

“There really are two paths before countries in this region and in many ways, countries in this world. But here in the Middle East, there’s the path of integration, cooperation, normalization and equal measures of justice, opportunity, dignity for all peoples, including the Palestinians,” Blinken said.

He added: “Or there’s the path that Hamas has shown to the world these last few days — terror, destruction, nihilism, a path that leads to nowhere for anyone except to the darkest places in our souls.”

agony-immense

Motherfucker, who is flattening entire blocks right now? Who is bombing hospitals? Who is cutting off electricity and water?

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[-] cricbuzz@hexbear.net 60 points 1 year ago

Spamming the Palestinian aid thread again https://hexbear.net/post/816379 . If you are in a position to give, please consider giving to some of the orgs in the thread.

Additionally, hasan-smash is doing a fundraiser as we speak, and that link was just added. https://x.com/hasanthehun/status/1713286510127219114?s=20

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[-] Vode_An@lemmy.ml 60 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

From an article that was linked here earlier

War becomes a test of political economy, it is the great revealer. The GDP of Russia and Belarus represents 3.3% of Western GDP (the US, Anglosphere, Europe, Japan, South Korea), practically nothing. One can ask oneself how this insignificant GDP can cope and continue to produce missiles. The reason is that GDP is a fictional measure of production. If we take away from the American GDP half of its overbilled health spending, then the "wealth produced" by the activity of its lawyers, by the most filled prisons in the world, then by an entire economy of ill-defined services, including the "production" of its 15 to 20 thousand economists with an average salary of 120,000 dollars, we realize that an important part of this GDP is water vapor. War brings us back to the real economy, it allows us to understand what the real wealth of nations is, the capacity for production, and therefore the capacity for war.

Econ losers btfo

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[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 60 points 1 year ago
[-] Aru@lemmygrad.ml 60 points 1 year ago
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[-] Parsani@hexbear.net 60 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Anyone remember that 95 year old who re-enlisted in the IDF? Pitched as a heartwarming story. Well...

IOF celebrate settler who took part in 1948 Deir Yassin massacre

https://english.almayadeen.net/news/politics/iof-celebrate-settler-who-took-part-in-1948-deir-yassin-mass

A member of Lehi (who at one point tried to ally with Nazi Germany), he is listed on the wiki page about the massacre

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deir_Yassin_massacre

Here he is recounting it. Like, bruh, what?

https://twitter.com/jennineak/status/1712033281636814920

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[-] Redcuban1959@hexbear.net 60 points 1 year ago

Ground operation in Gaza delayed several days due to weather - New York Times

Israel's ground operation in the Gaza Strip was supposed to begin this weekend, but it was postponed "by several days" due to cloudy weather that would make it difficult for Israeli pilots and drone operators to support ground forces from the air, the NYT reported, citing the IDF.

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[-] Parsani@hexbear.net 60 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

There are videos of the convoy that was struck while evacuating

The first video is SFW and shows the convoy leaving, the following vids are NFSW. and appear to be the same convoy, or at the very least a similar one.

Its hard to describe how fucked this is.

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[-] Antiwork@hexbear.net 60 points 1 year ago

Americans never had an issue with nazis it’s just the war was profitable and they liked regaining power.

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[-] ImOnADiet@lemmygrad.ml 60 points 1 year ago

Proud of my friend, he’s texting me rn asking for talking points about palestine cuz he’s fighting about this with his dad. Inshallah i will turn this dude into a marxist soon

[-] Sandinband@hexbear.net 60 points 1 year ago

For the longest time I thought @SeventyTwoTrillion@hexbear.net did the news megas because he had a job that required him reading all the stuff anyway and he just formated it for us as a bonus

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