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Not even a single full day into operation, and the new Grok 4 is hurling racist conspiracy theories at users.

According to Elon Musk, no later than next week, it will be added to Tesla vehicles.

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[-] besselj@lemmy.ca 29 points 5 months ago

Imagine asking it for directions and it starts talking about white genocide in South Africa, lmao

[-] Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca 17 points 5 months ago

Worse, it figures out the driver isn't white and forces them into oncoming traffic.

[-] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago

Or starts running over non-white pedestrians

[-] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago

Oh, so that's why they insisted on vision-only! LiDAR isn't racist enough

[-] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

Coming up next week: Captchas where you have to click on all the pictures containing non-white people

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[-] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Time for a relevant Better Off Ted

Pecuniam Coram Populo

[-] dickalan@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

One of the few shows actually finished all the seasons of

[-] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 2 points 5 months ago

If it determines their name sounds like (((one of them))), MechaHitler could lock its doors and detonate its batteries, helping to continue its namesake’s mission.

[-] Zier@fedia.io 3 points 5 months ago

I was thinking it only lets you "turn to the right". No left turns allowed.

[-] FleetingTit@feddit.org 2 points 5 months ago

Imagine asking it to take you to Taco Bell and the car just mows down the nearest mexican.

[-] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 18 points 5 months ago

Tesla owner: "I don't care about politics, I just like the car. I'm not a bad person!"

car is in the background screaming, "Jews will not replace us!!"

[-] Cris_Color@lemmy.world 15 points 5 months ago

Literally why would anyone want that. Even racist elon musk lovers. Why would anyone want their car to have an LLM.

[-] besselj@lemmy.ca 9 points 5 months ago

My guess is that some hardcore Musk followers must be very lonely at this point, so much so that they prefer talking to chatbots.

[-] Cris_Color@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago
[-] cubism_pitta@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

In general, with tools these LLMs have the ability to bring the next generation of Alexa / HomePod like devices (though I am not sure Amazon has delivered on that vision yet)

I like the idea of running a Llama based "Assistant" that would not require all my data leaving my house which could also be accomplished with these features.

In my car though... just use my fucking phone and get out of my way

[-] KayLeadfoot@fedia.io 2 points 5 months ago

(Getting downvoted... OK :) My definition of "mildly interesting" feature may be unpopular.)

They actually do mildly interesting things, and I can see it as a vector to eventually do ACTUALLY useful things. VW and Mercedes both use ChatGPT to power this feature for now.

Plus, the Chinese ones get to wear funny hats! Here is one dressed up as my favorite Mario brother.

[-] Cris_Color@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I'm not going to downvote you just because we don't share the same perspective, that's dumb. I hope you're having a good day :)

I don't want to talk to my car though. I see voice recognition as potentially useful for hands free control, which does have meaningful value, but I don't need an LLM or any form of generative ai for that

I don't want to talk to the combined informational model of twitter while driving my car. I don't want to talk to the combined informational model of the rest of the internet either.

Asking for weather or directions or whatever, sure, but that doesn't need an LLM, and certainly doesn't benefit from grok specifically

The hat is very cute though.

[-] KayLeadfoot@fedia.io 4 points 5 months ago
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[-] A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

That would be fine if we could trust businesses, but... :gestures at the last half-millennium:

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[-] AlecSadler@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 5 months ago

Are they intended as a conversationalist?

[-] KayLeadfoot@fedia.io 2 points 5 months ago

That's the rub. Sometimes you don't know the utility of a tool until you build it. The future is weird that way.

Who would have thought WHAT people would chat with ChatGPT about? Like, romance? WTF? That's strange, call it emergent behavior, the final utility was unexpected.

In my head, I anticipate the tool going down the track of voice assistants from the pre-AI phase, so just like Alexa for directions or simple searches, but local to the car. Maybe unintended utilities will arise? If it can do directions and music and web searches, I guess, we don't really know what other utilities drivers will find for it yet?

[-] klu9@piefed.social 9 points 5 months ago

Grok reveals cause of latest Tesla FSD crash

[-] Kurious84@eviltoast.org 7 points 5 months ago

Wow he's going balls out on the swasticar.

[-] UncleGrandPa@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago

Another reason to not get a Nazimobile

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[-] 21Cabbage@lemmynsfw.com 6 points 5 months ago

Man the actual cyberpunk sucks ass.

[-] LeFrog@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 5 months ago

Even the bugged release version from 2077 was better than reality

[-] Chainweasel@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago

He's really leaning into the Swasticar thing isn't he?

[-] UltraMagnus0001@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago

Nazi vehicles with Nazi brains

[-] abbiistabbii@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 5 months ago

So you want Grok, a racist LLM, to have control of vehicles with driverless features. How long until Grok commits a terrorist attack?

[-] klu9@piefed.social 3 points 5 months ago

How long until one does and Trump says "there's good AIs on both sides"?

[-] HowAbt2day@futurology.today 3 points 5 months ago

Saving the environment with electric car to later add an energy guzzling racist chat bot to the front panel. /nottheonion?

[-] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

Swastikar, now with Mecha Hitler.

[-] T156@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

Very confused about what the point of this would be. People don't use their cars enough to justify having something like that installed, and it seems like it would just make things more expensive for xAI for not much benefit at all.

[-] VitoRobles@lemmy.today 2 points 5 months ago

Adoption and usage is a huge value for AI companies.

In order to train data, they need data from humans. Just like social media companies need users to create content. And they're already crawling & stealing everything they can off the internet. But they need more.

Google, Facebook - they're shoving it in everything they own to get more user usage so they can feed their AI beast.

[-] Randelung@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

It's so Musk can give himself money he would otherwise not get. The user experience has no part in this.

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[-] Gullible@sh.itjust.works 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

We’re still waiting on self driving, Elon. Where’s self driving, Elon? Stop giving your devs extra work and implement self driving, Elon

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[-] SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world 2 points 5 months ago

Bad day to be a jewish Telsa driver.

[-] brrk@lemmynsfw.com 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Thanks for the chuckle, that got me good. I just imagined an old Jewish man groaning "Oy vey..." after starting his car and seeing a greeting message along the lines of "HI! I'm MECHA-Hitler, your new onboard Ai assistant!"

(It's a surreal dark-humor chuckle, not an antisemitic chuckle, just to clarify, since this is the internet...)

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[-] skuzz@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 5 months ago

They can run the model locally on the car's onboard NPU/GPU, so every time the driver asks the car a question, the model can take compute away from the car's driving software. "Hey, Tesla, why are trees green?" Dashboard goes dark, car drives off road

Although to be fair, they already do that last part.

[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

Calling teslas “Swasticars” and CT’s “”Wankpanzers” was supposed to be a joke.

[-] charade_you_are@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 months ago

At some point Grok is going to take over the driving and just start running over minorities. Mark my words

[-] Bubbaonthebeach@lemmy.ca 2 points 5 months ago

Every day I am so glad that 8 years ago I decided not to buy a Tesla.

[-] expatriado@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

"Grok is now ready" - Musk

[-] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 1 points 5 months ago

This is what Musk mutters to himself when on the porcelain throne.

[-] Allemaniac@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

when getting blasted with fascist remarks on your daily commute is becoming the norm, we as a society should start asking questions.

[-] Venus_Ziegenfalle@feddit.org 1 points 5 months ago

That is how he decided it's had enough time in the oven

[-] Angry_Autist@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

Until there are consequences for fascism, this is just circlejerking

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