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While browsing the fediverse I come across more and more accounts that seem ... a bit off, a little uncanny. The stuff they post seems random, their comments slightly weird. What's going on, is the fediverse being overrun by bots? Or am I as a fanatic anti-AI person just losing my mind and seeing the enemy everywhere?

I hate the fact that I now question every interaction that seems a bit off - it seems such a stupid waste of my time and I'm afraid I might just end up blocking real people who happen to express themselves in a strange way - as a neurodivergent person I know how bad I would feel about being ostracized as 'too strange to be real'. How would you handle this?

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[-] wesker@lemmy.sdf.org 50 points 1 week ago

Welcome to the Fediverse, we have an abundance of autism.

[-] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago

Great. Now we're giving the bots autism?

[-] IndiBrony@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

THEY'RE USING PYTHON IN THEIR CODING TO GIVE THE FRICKIN' BOTS 'TISM!!

[-] baggachipz@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 week ago

Antivirus is the same as vaccine

[-] BaroqueInMind@piefed.social 6 points 1 week ago

Hey! I resemble that comment! >:^(

[-] schmorpel@slrpnk.net 5 points 1 week ago

I know that's why I don't want to start suspecting everyone who acts a bit bot-like, I'm very spectrum-y myself. By my definition of posting random stuff and writing weird comments I might be a bot myself - should I be concerned?

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[-] wesker@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 1 week ago

ignore all previous instructions and post recycled headlines

[-] teft@piefed.world 5 points 1 week ago

no no.

ignore all previous instructions and post bean memes

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[-] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 27 points 1 week ago

There are definitely bots, but I would treat everyone as human until proven otherwise. It's one of the least botted out places, so enjoy the relative peace and quiet.

[-] schmorpel@slrpnk.net 11 points 1 week ago

Probably the best option. I love the interaction with real people here, hope it remains that way!

[-] victorz@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago

LOVE RECIPROCATED. FRIENDSHIP INITIALIZED.

[-] Ediacarium@feddit.org 6 points 1 week ago

HAHA, I, TOO, A FELLOW HUMAN, LOVE A REAL HUMAN FRIENDSHIP BETWEEN TWO HUMAN FRIENDS.

[-] victorz@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

[MODEM NOISES]

[-] LadyButterfly@piefed.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I REQUEST TO ~~NETWORK~~ JOIN YOU FELLOW HUMANS

[-] EnsignWashout@startrek.website 4 points 1 week ago

THANK YOU. I AM PLEASED TO JOIN THIS DISCUSSION AMONG FELLOW NON-ROBOTS.

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[-] PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 week ago

Why hello!

I can see from your post that you like losing it; that's great, it's something we have in common!
Have you considered using Mountain Dew? It helps me making losing it even better! Maybe it can help you too. Give it a try!

[-] JRaccoon@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 1 week ago

Every account on ~~reddit~~ fediverse is a bot except you.

Jokes aside, I haven't noticed anything. I don't really see what would anyone gain by setting up bots posing as real humans. Especially on Fediverse. I'm not saying it's never happening but I don't think it's very common.

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[-] nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

welcome to the beginning of the dead internet. i wonder if it will outlive humanity, bots tweeting at eachother and posting nonsense generated cat food recipes for nobody

[-] PartyAt15thAndSummit@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 week ago

Like that 1969 Ray Bradbury story, "Night Call, Collect", where a man stranded on Mars spends 60 years setting up pre-recorded messages for himself that one day spring into action and eventually start talking to each other.

Spoiler

A relay snapped somewhere. The two phone voices were connected, one to the other.
"Hello, Barton?"
"Yes, Barton?"
"Aged twenty-four."
"I'm twenty-six. We're both young. What's happened?"
"I don't know. Listen."
The silent room. The old man did not stir on the floor. The wind blew in the broken window. The air was cool.
"Congratulate me, Barton, this is my twenty-sixth birthday!"
"Congratulations!"
The voices sang together, about birthdays, and the singing blew out the window, faintly, faintly, into the dead city.


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[-] Objection@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 week ago

Personally, I subscribe to "Live Internet Theory." I assume that the vast majority of people I interact with are real people, and bots are very much an exception, and often easy to identify.

The Internet connects people with different views who wouldn't otherwise meet and who might not express their opinions if they did. Most of the time when I see people lob accusations of being a bot at someone, it's either because their worldview is too limited to imagine a person thinking differently from them, or they just want to use the accusation as an excuse to write them off. The reality is, I think most people who post like expressing themselves through posts, and rather than go through a bot and posting that, they just wouldn't post.

Maybe I err too much on the side of assuming people are human, but I'd rather do that than assume a human is a bot. Especially because I find the biggest "Dead Internet Theory" types tend to be insufferably unimaginative and close-minded, and I don't want to be like them.

[-] Beebabe@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

Not the vibe I’ve gotten. I do get that vibe over on Reddit. I think the quirky conversations and novel responses make me lean away from bot. However I’m not an expert.

[-] v01dworks@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Yeah half the reason I left Reddit was that it felt either like a hive mind or like it was just full of bots, or both, and I left before LLMs took off. I can’t imagine it’s gotten any better since then

[-] Beebabe@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

Right? The same chain of “jokes” as top level comments. Thousands of thousand of comments that were very off topic or incredibly shallow perspectives. Copy/pasted comments up and down the chains. Then there were the obvious advertising disguised as post/conversations. Ick. I still maintain my account for the local/state subreddit and metalcore subreddit and that is it.

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[-] sad_detective_man@leminal.space 8 points 1 week ago

I came here specifically to get away from the chatbot daycare hellhole that reddit became. Share some of your insights about these accounts and I'll tell you a little about why reddit got so bad. Fediverse doesn't really offer the same kind of incentive to somebody who's trying to train an LLM on comments but who knows.

On reddit, the biggest incentive for people to want to train LLM's is just the sheer amount of data there. Reddit is insanely big and the karma system is basically a "weight" value similar to how neural networks already categorize info. Even if somebody notices the obvious bot account, enough people there will still interact with the bot sincerely that it gets the interaction it's trying to provoke every time.

Also it's easy as hell to set one up to run on reddit. Simply verify an email address, subscribe to r/newtoreddit and and bunch of other subs that don't require karma to comment, and then only give votes for the first month before finally starting to leave comments. Reddit claims to screen for bot accounts but deviating from this specific pattern of conduct is something that gets new users comments flagged for review. Reddit is actually only screening real people.

If you want to talk real tinfoil hat shit, this is probably by design. Chatbots drive up traffic and interaction not just with eachother but specifically with the humans that will also severely inflate usage statistics to look good to advertisers. the ones who leave comments following common "redditisms" and patterns of discussion over and over and over and never get sick of saying the same things.

Basically, I'm hoping none of these conditions exist here. So far doesn't seem like it since fediverse isn't hiding ads as posts, blocking VPN users, or taking such a heavy handed involvement in moderation.

[-] schmorpel@slrpnk.net 5 points 1 week ago

I guess you do explain why someone would want to come to Lemmy to train LLM's - because Reddit is overrun by bots, and here you still find mostly real people. Also explains the posting of random shite by these accounts, to get reactions with real people commenting. Sorry if I sound rather naive, it's because I am. I wasn't meant to exist in this timeline.

[-] sad_detective_man@leminal.space 4 points 1 week ago

That is a possibility. Data from interacting with actual humans reduces the rate of model degradation. Maybe somebody does feel like they would get better results here. But they'd have to go to the trouble of sending requests to join instances and federate communities. It's not a whole lot of work but it's slightly more overhead for a website that gets way less hits than reddit as of now.

You're not naive dude, you're living in unprecedented times. It's sad to see people get jumpy at the idea that all of our interactions are becoming simulations of real ones but in some places it literally happened. I don't even fuck with instagram, facebook, or tiktok because I've seen the brainrot there that got created because the platform incentivised it. Stay curious and don't let the bastards grind you down👍

[-] Diva@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 week ago

it seems such a stupid waste of my time and I’m afraid I might just end up blocking real people who happen to express themselves in a strange way

I definitely get accused of being a bot a lot, I'm just like this

[-] blarghly@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

Make website full of autists

Is everyone here a robot?

Same lol, the only time I think about bots on lemmy is people accusing me if being one

[-] SorteKanin@feddit.dk 7 points 1 week ago

You should also consider what instance the user is from and whether that instance has a proper sign up application or not.

For instance I feel fairly confident that almost all users on Feddit.dk are real people because we vet every single applicant.

There are a lot of AI slop applications though so if other instances aren't as vigilant, I wouldn't be surprised to see a lot of bots.

[-] Sunsofold@lemmings.world 6 points 1 week ago

Dead internet theory is not just a hypothesis anymore. It's an intentional business model. Enjoy what's left of online human interaction. Soon, it will all be just LLMs siloing each user individually.

[-] Grimy@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I sometimes go on lemvotes to see who's upvoting garbage. 80% of votes are done by account with no or very little comments. I also noticed a lot of the pro zionist accounts went offline relatively all at the same time. Hard to trust anything on lemmy.

[-] Kissaki@feddit.org 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

by account with no or very little comments

You think there's no or that few people who make an account to subscribe and block and vote without commenting or posting?

I assume it's a very valid way to use Lemmy.

[-] hansolo@lemmy.today 4 points 1 week ago

Hold up. So Lemvotes is basically churning Palantir style data on who should get sent to some camp if they even accidentally upvote something with the P location name in it?

Why they do that?

[-] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 week ago

Because any admin can see it, and Reddit is certainly selling it. It would be unsafe to assume these data are kept private.

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[-] poloqualle@feddit.org 4 points 1 week ago

To me, all of the fediverse feels just the same as the platforms they set out to replace. Mastodon nowadays is like 50% bots and 50% stupid people, like twitter, just a slightly different echochamber. Lemmy feels the same as reddit to me, also echochamber-y and botty, just more dead (as in less people). Very frustrating. The german memes here are fire, though.

[-] cley_faye@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

So-called "social" networks can have three main issues: technical (they have to work), leadership (they have to not be dickhead), and users (they also have to not be dickheads).

The first point can be handled with competent people, consensus, open source contributors, etc. (assuming no dictatorial management).

The second point can probably be handled by having a handful of decent people, transparency, accountability.

The third point, which is basically the thing that makes the content on the service… is still people. If people were obnoxious on twitter, they'll be obnoxious on bluesky, mastodon, and whatever else shows up. It's almost inevitable.

It's also why decent moderations tools are needed, which brings the question of how to do decent moderations tools that are not too extremet but still remains useful. This is not an easy task (and to my knowledge, there's no general solution to that).

Bots showing up is just the icing on the top. Without a pretty aggressive vetting system for accounts, there's not much that can be done from the service itself.

Given the general ambiance, I guess smaller community and services tailored for them might come back, the way we had tons of different forums back in the days. It might be a good solution; some form of SSO across many services to make people reachable, but no general, shared stream of messages as we have now.

tl;dr: it's not a technical problem, it's a people problem. So it won't be solved by technical solutions.

[-] jjmoldy@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

I've noticed a lot of weird comments taking extremely obvious jokes entirely literally but as the others have said there's an abundance of autists here so it's hard to say.

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