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[-] DrFistington@lemmy.world 33 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

The entire concept of fracking is that you drill into a fissure, then blast it full of a dangerous chemical slurry so that it eventually forces natural gas out of the fissure. Then when all the natural gas is gone, they pack up and leave with their money. The chemical slurry stays in the ground forever, leaching into water tables, public waterways, potentially contaminating soil used for live stock and agriculture.

We literally have a visible ball of unlimited fusion energy in the fucking sky, and natural tides that can power tidal generators, but no, let's just poison the shit out of everyone for a slightly better profit margin...

[-] andros_rex@lemmy.world 14 points 2 weeks ago

I’m an educator, and I’m forbidden from taking about fracking at work ( ° ͜ʖ °)

[-] NJSpradlin@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago

Geothermal, wind, tide, hydro, solar… and then even nuclear. All ways to just create unlimited energy. But, because the elite enslave us to the status quo, through the jobs that keep it going… here we are.

[-] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 points 2 weeks ago

we havnt tapped into geothermal like scifi does, we have the other ones though.

[-] cows_are_underrated@feddit.org 1 points 2 weeks ago

Except that nuclear is not economically viable.

[-] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 2 points 2 weeks ago
[-] cows_are_underrated@feddit.org 1 points 2 weeks ago

You didnt but the person you replied to

[-] Tja@programming.dev 1 points 2 weeks ago

Huh? France seems to be doing OK.

[-] cows_are_underrated@feddit.org 2 points 2 weeks ago

I should mention, that building new nuclear reactors is not financially a viable option.

[-] Tja@programming.dev 1 points 2 weeks ago

A single one maybe not, if we standardize and scale it might work. If solar and batteries keep getting cheaper, it might not be worth it, but the current problem is that new reactors are their own unique snowflakes, making it more expensive.

[-] Szyler@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

It is if you consider the cost of the redundancy required for renewable energy to serve as base load once you cut oil, gass and coal out of the supply.

Nuclear can cover this base load until we develop better storage systems for large scale use.

If we had just built nuclear with the modern architecture developed in the 70's onwards we'd be able to move away from fossile fuel FAAR more easily today, without any mjor disasters from the reactor technology from the 50's.

[-] NJSpradlin@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

One or two of them, or all of them individually, aren’t explicitly as competitive as existing non-renewables, sure. But together.

Geothermal is very good option for some for reducing their electricity demand for heating and cooling their homes.

Home solar doesn’t fully cover everyone’s electricity demand for their homes, sure, but can greatly reduce the demand for it of it doesn’t cover it outright.

[-] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 weeks ago

Then why did it take until 1859 for human population to start trending up and reach 8 billion?

I'll help you: oil. The ancient Romans had geothermal, wide, tide, solar, and hydro as well.

They had the exact same energy we do now. The difference is we have power, they didn't.

I'll help you again. You can't fertilize crops with electricity, or make plastic.

[-] theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

The cheaper energy becomes, the more of a threat it is to literally all of the world's heirarchies of power. The people at the top that benefit most from these heirarchies and who have the most control are also the most disincentivized from finding a solution that makes energy cheaper for all.

Solar is already a way cheaper way to make energy. Fossil fuels for electrical energy are only profitable due to large government handouts and steep tarries on Chinese electronics such as solar panels. Economic forces always win so renewables powering most of the grid is inevitable.

The real issue is that vehicles and aircraft need something with equivalent energy density and battery technology just isn't that good yet and will take a long time to get that good.

The other thing is economically it's cheaper to run a lot of ff powered devices at a higher rate than to invest in a replacement to run at a lower rate. The roi just isn't goof enough. Eg Almost all new heating systems are heat pumps but the economic cost of replacing a gas heater with a heat pump just isn't worth it.

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[-] teawrecks@sopuli.xyz 2 points 2 weeks ago

For the record, the current technology we have to capture renewable energy is not capable of supporting the civilization we have built compared to how efficient oil and natural gas are as energy-dense molecules. Only very recently has battery technology come far enough to make it worth it to move a semi-truck any reasonable distance, but cargo ships are still going to be difficult to replace and account for a huge amount of pollution, as well as commerce we depend on. So it's not a "slightly better profit margin", as it would range from a literal decimation of society to straight up impossible to cut out all fossil fuels today.

But we should have started a global, methodical transition over 40 years ago, and the free market control over government and media has systematically prevented that. And THAT is unacceptable.

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[-] OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca 27 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)
[-] plyth@feddit.org 10 points 2 weeks ago

Using fracking if you could have electric cars shows that it is all about spoiling ground water.

This is the preparation for selling water to everybody.

[-] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

I can't wait until we have to pay for breathable air.

[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 4 points 2 weeks ago

Why do you think Musk wants to colonise Mars?

[-] Tja@programming.dev 2 points 2 weeks ago

Hanlon's razor

[-] FuckFascism@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago

Why am I not fracking surprised.

[-] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago
[-] FuckFascism@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

You're not my fracking mom you can't tell me what to do! Stomps off...MOM SOMEONE IS IMPERSONATING YOU ONLINE.

[-] Wizard_Pope@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

It's alright sweetie. A covert special ops has been dispatched to take them out.

[-] W3dd1e@lemmy.zip 9 points 2 weeks ago

I have experienced earthquakes. In Kansas City, Missouri. One had an epicenter near Stillwater, Oklahoma.

That’s not supposed to happen.

[-] IhaveCrabs111@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

The things you’re saying are supposed to be suppressed

[-] loomy@lemy.lol 8 points 2 weeks ago

is this not common knowledge?

[-] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 weeks ago

I was talking to a coworker at my last job about how fracking introduces dangerous chemical into the water supply, and a random guy we never talk to came up and said “OH YOU’RE WRONG ABOUT FRACKING” like his job depended on it… we were not at all related to fracking

[-] njm1314@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

Kinda? I mean you would think so but they spend millions on propaganda.

[-] crusa187@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 weeks ago

It’s common sense, but obfuscated by those still spending millions to deny climate change while the world literally burns around us. Gaslighting is a hell of a propaganda technique.

[-] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

also funding things like "curbing your carbon footprint companies", so these pollutors dont need to lower thier emissions. seen them alot as a promotion in channels talking about nature, animals etc. the channel owners were cognizant enough to stop promoting it, once those companies have been called out as backed by OIL industry.

[-] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 weeks ago

Gaslighting is old-hat man.

Nowadays it's kitchen-faucet-lighting.

[-] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 5 points 2 weeks ago

yea, but cancer = more medical bills. that's just a bonus add-on to the oil profits

you see, it raises the GDP!!!

that's BS there's plenty of studies that shows how fracking is very healthy (for the shareholders)

[-] oo1@lemmings.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

Those kids are very bad people, at least one of them has links to the MS-13 gang.

And the others had shared sensitive pokemon information with that one. biggest threat to national security.

[-] The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

Good luck finding land that is not near fracking sites. It's been done basically everywhere, right?

[-] Bloomcole@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

There isn't gas or oil everywhere.

[-] wpb@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

And still there's politicians out there saying things like "I will not ban fracking. I did not as vice president. In fact, I cast the tie-breaking vote to open up more fracking leases". Playing with people's lives just to make a buck. Really shows they're not beholden to the people but to the owning class.

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