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[-] Nangijala@feddit.dk 1 points 9 hours ago

This legit made me choke on my laughter. So fucking true.

And then people go "jUsT wRitE iT dOwN"

Well, I do, bish, but I can never remember what notebook or piece of paper I wrote it on nor where I put it. I have found old password notes in the weirdest places, even digitally. In fucking Procreate on my iPad in a a weird folder I never use, quickly scribbled down in a file that I have not looked at for three years. Sometimes in the bottom of a bag that I put in the basement months ago, on a little water damaged poster it note. Other times in the back of a notebook, upside down AND written in invisible ink. No really. And I thought I was sooooo clever at the time too. -_-

So now I have a bullet journal I carry with me everywhere and I wrote down all the pin codes and passwords and whatever the fuck I have that I can remember down on a separate piece of paper that is in pocket in the back of the book so that when this journal is finished, I can put it in the next one. I hope this time it will work out longterm, lol.

[-] AnimalsDream@slrpnk.net 12 points 2 days ago

Password security and password manager howto should be an essential part of education. But then again if that happened, schools would probably teach how to use some proprietary cloud-based app with built-in datamining, because lobbying. It would only be a matter of time before everyone would find out the company was storing everyone's passwords in plaintext after they all leaked.

[-] fedditter@feddit.org 80 points 3 days ago

Use a password manager like keepassxc

[-] Zwiebel@feddit.org 15 points 3 days ago

Or Bitwarden for cloudsync

[-] Cassa@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 3 days ago

You can use keepass with cloudsync.

Just have the password file in a cloud.

Sounds like pain in the ass, I really like the auto-fill feature of Bitwarden... (or in my case vaultwarden as backend)

[-] T0RB1T@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 days ago

Bitwarden is great! However, Keepass(XC) can do autofill as well.

The only complication is keeping sure your cloud copy is up to date, or your machines are all kept in sync without conflict with something like syncthing. I actually really like the ways you can tweak KeepassXC.

[-] quediuspayu@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 3 days ago

or a notebook

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[-] markz@suppo.fi 47 points 3 days ago
[-] WanderingThoughts@europe.pub 33 points 3 days ago

Then you can generate a password so big and complex, the site or app starts begging you to stop. At that moment, you can say "ur password system is weak."

[-] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 34 points 3 days ago

Careful with that. Sometimes a site will allow you to use some stupid long password when you sign up, but then it turns out that some other version of the site or an app for it on other platforms won't accept a password that long!

[-] kameecoding@lemmy.world 12 points 3 days ago

That's okay, I just want to hear "it's too big"

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[-] markz@suppo.fi 8 points 3 days ago

In lemmy, password length is capped to 60. Weak.

[-] Cassa@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 3 days ago

Almost, but KeepassDX is better 😎

[-] lka1988@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

KeePass and literally any of it's derivatives. Not just DX.

I use Keepass2Android, KeePass XC, Keepassium, and the OG KeePass.

They are all solId.

[-] owsei@programming.dev 4 points 3 days ago
[-] Cassa@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 3 days ago

It's not a service you're paying for. It is just a password manager.

Though tbh, I don't know all of bitwardens spesific details.

It's at least open source, but can you have your passwords stored anywhere other than their servers? What if the company changes path - can you just use another fork or are you stuck.

[-] markz@suppo.fi 17 points 3 days ago

Bitwarden is self-hostable and foss, with some unofficial software already out there. Not much opportunity for the company to entrap customers if it went evil.

IMO, for most people it's best to just send them to register at bitwarden. It's less hassle so they might actually follow through, while being infinitely better than what they were doing before.

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[-] trashgirlfriend@lemmy.world 28 points 3 days ago

password managers save my life very hard

[-] 18107@aussie.zone 20 points 3 days ago
[-] OpenStars@piefed.social 5 points 3 days ago
[-] KoalaUnknown@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

So, are we just going to pretend dictionary attacks don’t exist?

[-] OpenStars@piefed.social 2 points 2 days ago

It would seem so, yes.

Evidence: xkcd is never wrong. :-P

(Although I have always wondered about that aspect yes... perhaps an attack has to switch between trying random letters and random words, which may limit its effectiveness, and still keep the number of words high? What if we swapped out letters like c0rr3ct? - b/c obviously hackers have never heard of 1337 5p33ch before. Yeah I really have not looked this one up, hence default to the joke answer above. irl I use the FOSS KeePass and a large string of random crap... but that is nowhere near as funny to say as correct horse battery staple:-D

Also, https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php/936:_Password_Strength does talk about this - but unless it is in the references, there is not too much depth there, e.g. a dictionary may have a certain number of words, but I doubt that they are all used equally - some werds oft encroaches upon my visage with verily greater frequency of occurrence by comparison to alterity, so while in the sense of spherical chickens sliding on a frictionless surface a dictionary attack "may not be viable", in practice I highly suspect that a way could be found to find, if not one specific password, then at least somebody's password within a large bank of them.)

[-] PotatoesFall@discuss.tchncs.de 15 points 3 days ago

I don't know how but I went way too long without a password manager. Changed my life. I recommend Bitwarden. I also use it to store like, my bank account number or my tax number.

[-] NewOldGuard@hexbear.net 12 points 3 days ago

Password manager

[-] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Correcthorsebatterystaple (somebody link please)

Edit: Most places wont allow it due to character requirements and length limits, but it does work and is cryptographically sound.

[-] Patches@ttrpg.network 4 points 3 days ago

Yep and then they require you to put special characters, numbers, and capital letters because.... Reasons?

I would be the one getting hacked, not them.... Let me do what I want.

[-] Ghoelian@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 days ago

It's just because of entropy. More entropy is more secure.

Also sure, it's you getting hacked, but it's the service that got hacked that will have all kinds of news stories written about their weak password requirements.

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[-] ICastFist@programming.dev 5 points 2 days ago

Let me write a fucking passphrase instead of ABCabc123! And let me use fucking ã, ñ, é, ç, etc on my passwords - Microsoft doesn't allow spaces or latin special characters

Forcing people to use upper case, lower case, number and special character is terrible for them and vastly increases password reuse. Besides, almost no one brute forces anything anymore, it's all rainbow tables and invading the database server

[-] JackbyDev@programming.dev 2 points 2 days ago

None of the characters in your post are special characters. It's not your fault, but I hate when tech folks call stuff like ñ a special character. That's a real character that a real language uses.

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