All of this news coming out now show you just how terrible democrats are at being a real opposition party. All of this was known and it never came to the attention of the media.
To be fair, this was all information that was published before. Just like now, it changes absolutely nothing for his supporters.
Not to say that the dems aren’t terrible at messaging. But this seems to be more of a case of Trump having so many scandals that people forgot the details of this one. Saw someone post the other day that they went to Epsteins wikipedia page and had completely forgotten large swathes of it. Its just too much, too fucked up, for people to hold on to it.
And the worst part is, none of it is hidden. The video from the 90s (maybe early aughts) that had him speaking about his good friend ‘who, you know, likes them a little on the young side,’ was from Inside Edition (iirc). Dude casually admitted his friend was a pedo and it gets published as a puff piece.
None of this is new, none of this is unknown, its just unbearably fucked up.
Not as unique as you might think. This might be an elite class issue. A lot of people knew about Harvey Weinstein before he got metooed.
And it makes those folks just as culpable. Knowing someone is actively committing that sort of crime and doing nothing is nearly as bad as doing it.
What is someone supposed to do exactly? Epstein was one of the most powerful and well connected individuals when he was alive. Let’s say you saw an employee who looked young—you go to the police, you tell them your suspicions…did you get her ID? Do you think Epstein won’t sue you until you’re broke? Do you think there will be justice when he can call up politicians and get things buried?
I’m not suggesting that everyone should keep their mouth shut all the time, it is just that he was a huge dragon that could not be attacked unless you were a particularly qualified hero. Who knows how many people tried to blow the whistle and ended up dead or discredited and in poverty. It is easy enough to say “they should have done something”, but succeeding is a whole different ballgame.
If you were deep enough to actually know things that you could prove, you were very likely the kind of person who was also guilty. That is part of why the plan worked for so long.
Exactly, which the video quote I think proves. He really felt comfortable saying that. He’s high up in all of that, but he is far from the only one in that muck. And it certainly didn’t end when Epstein died.
Just like now, it changes absolutely nothing for his supporters.
I'm sure a sizeable portion of them think it makes him a real stud.
A lot of it was out. The Republicans refused to believe it until now.
Many will still do mental gymnastics to rationalize it away.
Just like liberals refuse to believe Democrats are involved too, and that's the real reason they've ignored it the whole time.
From top to bottom, from Bill Clinton to Alan Dershowitz, the Democrats are not your friends.
Trump is not the only wealthy person involved. The people that own both parties don't want themselves and their friends implicated. Bill Clinton, Bill Gates etc
I think it's more a testament to how much the average american ignores, I don't think anything new has really been released regarding Epstein and Trump. Mostly rehashing similar acqusations that have been floating around for years.
I mean there is sworn testimony of him raping an ex-wife https://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/donald-trump-exwife-claim-he-raped-her-resurfaces-in-new-documentary-a6836151.html but that never got any traction.
The neoliberal wing behind the party while this was all happening and Biden was just president is no longer in charge of the DNC.
It makes no sense to blame the current DNC for anything before February.
It's not just a different guy at the desk, it's the same as blaming a Dem president for what the last Republican did.
Meaning the current DNC won't work against a candidate willing to disclose all of it. However they won't work against any candidate in the general. That's why MSM is desperate to convince people that change never happened. They want to depress primary turnout.
If it was the same group of people in charge, the media would be still saying the DNC is the only other option and we can't criticize anything they do.
It's like how the best time to buy gold is when places advertise for you to sell it, and the worst time is when they advertise for you to buy it.
Just do the opposite of what a billionaire says we should do, and things will probably work out for the rest of us.
Meaning the current DNC won't work against a candidate willing to disclose all of it.
I kinda feel like this is giving 'em a little too much credit. However, I can't argue with your overall argument, nor the logic you present to get there.
That said, the general nature of the problem hasn't changed. The blatant corruption that is directly enabled by the vile (and, in my not so humble opinion, treasonous) Churches United ruling has redefined the playing field. Basically, only the corrupt have any realistic chance of election nationally, which completely undermines the democratic part of our government. (And yes, democracy only plays a part in a republic style government. The US has never been a "democracy".)
My own takeaway is to focus my attention more on local elections. They have always been far more important than most people realize (myself included), now even more so. If there's any chance of reversing the terrible damage being wrought, it starts locally. This is true whether you believe in working with, or against, the current system.
And again, this isn't meant as an attack on your own argument. I knew about the change in DNC leadership, but I've been overlooking both it's potential significance, as well as that of the current media framing - specifically the lack of "only other option" type statements. Thank you for your perspective!
Edit/P.S. The reaction to David Hogg's actions are a good example of why I continue to be skeptical of the DNC. On the other hand, what else could anyone expect, really. That man has definitely piqued my curiosity, though, and I hope we see more from him down the line.
I kinda feel like this is giving 'em a little too much credit.
It's not "them" it's one man, Ken Martin.
And he chaired Minnesota for like a decade, right up until the DNC. He has a proven track record.
But believe me, if he starts to fuck up I'm gonna say he's fucking up.
Basically, only the corrupt have any realistic chance of election nationally, which completely undermines the democratic part of our government.
If that was true then there would be zero way Mamdani would have won his primary. Sure, "it's a mayorship" but it's for NYC, one of the largest concentrations of wealth on the planet, there's a reason they've had shit against mayors for generations.
They failed to buy the primary, that's never really happened.
My own takeaway is to focus my attention more on local elections.
This is the big strategy of the DNC after a decade of the Victory Fund bankrupting state parties, were seeing the largest reinvestment from the DNC back to red/purple states so they can start fighting at lower levels.
The reaction to David Hogg’s actions are a good example of why I continue to be skeptical of the DNC.
Here's what happened:
Biden's pick for chair and the committee that runs primaries fucked up their internal election for vice chair.
Complaints were lodged that the election wasn't by the rules, Martin kicked it to committee who put it up to a DNC wide vote of all ~400 members. The same ones who had just elected Martin and Hogg off the same ballot.
Hogg choose not to run, by every indication he would have won just like last time, this was a formality
Instead Hogg said he's going to start a PAC.
I don't think he ever intended to win, no one would have predicted Martin or Hogg's wins. I wasn't even that optimistic. I think Hogg's original plan was to do the PAC, and that's why he refused to run in the re-election he was assuredly going to win.
Quick edit:
Fo bonus points, Martin just ran two of those committee members who have been fucking up primaries out of the DNC. Even better, one of them was an 08 superdelegate who tried to vote Clinton after Obama already had the votes.
The old guard is gone.
We can't squander this, we literally may never get the chance again if this doesn't work
Democrats are also on the list. Nevar forgat that Trump said he'd run as a Democrat if he evar ran.
At times, it's like watching the Washington Generals play the Harlem Globetrotters.
"C'mon guys! They're not even playing real basketball anymore! Get back in there and take back our civil rights and public services!"
Epstein was a young woman? No way.
Epstein was a young woman? No way.
Steven Tyler has the widest mouth of all time
...we're fine with killing kids, but fucking them?...
How about not being okay with both?
cheers mate, you figured it out...
Guys. I think he raped kids.
On Truth Social, President Donald J. Trump issued a bold and unequivocal statement today blasting what he called a “DISGUSTING, DESPERATE, and TOTALLY FAKE” media smear campaign, denying reports that he hosted a private party for young women with convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein as the only other invited guest.
“LET ME BE VERY CLEAR,” Trump said from his Mar-a-Lago estate. “I NEVER — and I mean NEVER — HOSTED ANY PARTY WITH EPSTEEN OR WHATEVER. NEVER HAPPEND. TOTAL FICTON. Just more LIES from the FAILING FAKE NEWS MEDIA.”
The allegation, first published in The New York Times is based on statements by Florida businessman George Houraney and claimed a gathering at Trump’s Florida property included young women and only one other guest—Jeffrey Epstein. Trump called the implication “SICK, TWISTED NONSENSE from a LOSER who I REFUSED to give a job to, even though HE BEGGED ME!.”
“JEFFREY EPSTEEN? I BANNED HIM FROM MAR-A-LAGO, OKAY? He was a VERY BAD GUY. Everyone KNOWS IT. The WORST. Unlike SLICK WILLIE CLINTON — who was flying on the ‘LOLCITA EXPRESS’ like, what, 30 times? SAD!”
Trump went on to recount an alleged emotional encounter with a supporter. “A VERY STRONG MAN came up to me, big guy, tough — real tough — tears in his eyes. And he said, ‘SIR, THANK YOU for NEVER going to that party. THANK YOU for KICKING OUT EPSTEEN.’ And I said, ‘I KNOW.’ He cried. It was beautifull. Most people wouldn’t understand.”
Team Trump emphasized that “no credible evidence exists” of any such party and warned that legal action may be taken against “SLANDEROUS HACKS” in the press.
“IT’S ALWAYS FAKE NEWS,” Trump concluded. “THEY’VE BEEN LYING SINCE THE ESCALATOR. TOTAL WITCHUNT. VERY UNFARE!”
I can’t tell if this is real or satire 🙃
Intentional misspelling of Epstein for plausible deniability?
I don't know if that is copy-pasted from the original or quoted badly, but there are a lot of typos in there. I am not reading a lot of Trump's rants: is this just how he usually writes or is he being particularly emotional?
Or to decrease the number that keyword is seen by the algorithms
Smort.
It’s so icky how they try to use “young women”
The hits keep coming
Dude couldn't look more guilty if he tried.
Once?
The real criminals here are....Obama, Hillary Biden, and Adam Schiff, though! Something something argle bargle "coup" ten years ago! Why won't the liberals see that?!!!
Let's not pretend Bill Clinton wasn't Epstein's buddy too. The DNC is just as disgusting, and until liberals realize they're actually just neo-liberals, nothing change.
The pedo pals
Well now I have the title for the worst kids show.
You'll find a niche online market.
Great! Now its even worse!
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